aaid Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, thplinth said: You don't even have a underground FFS. You? I don't live in Edinburgh, or Glasgow. I live in England which isn't even in Scotland. Glasgow can start to talk about the subway as if it isn't some sort of joke when it operates after six o'clock on a Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, aaid said: You? I don't live in Edinburgh, or Glasgow. I live in England which isn't even in Scotland. Glasgow can start to talk about the subway as if it isn't some sort of joke when it operates after six o'clock on a Sunday. This is the worst case of metro envy I have ever seen. No city in the world can claim to be major with out an underground, none, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 After Indy Edinburgh will boom, a proper capital , thats why i cant understand the 'naw' brigade in Edinburgh.... There are loads of major cities without Undergrounds.... thplinth ..... I would say no city in Europe, but the worlld.... what aboot , LA. Vancouver, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, thplinth said: This is the worst case of metro envy I have ever seen. No city in the world can claim to be major with out an underground, none, Melbourne, Sydney, Manila, none have an underground Edited September 9, 2016 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 All pretendy no metro major city kents. Do you at least have a surface commuter train network in Edinburgh. Aberdeen just has buses FFS and it claims to be a city as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, aaid said: I'll get the tin hat on, but Edinburgh, post devolution is way more important than Glasgow. It's becoming harder to argue against that. But still Glasgow's miles better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Only ever been to two rock gigs in Edinburgh. Dozens in Glasgow so as city of culture it wins hands down Mind you, my love of eastern European cities is not undergrounds, but their trams, so Edinburgh is catching up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, Toepoke said: Bold statement that. Berlin has 4 times the population of Munich for a start. According to the Globalisation and World Rankings Research Institute Frankfurt is an Alpha city, Munich Alpha- and Hamburg and Berlin are Beta+ cities. http://www.spottedbylocals.com/blog/alpha-beta-and-gamma-cities/ Bold statement it is but I think these guys know more about it than you do. Edited September 10, 2016 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 23 hours ago, Parklife said: By "bold" do you mean "completely wrong"? idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMcD Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 38 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: According to the Globalisation and World Rankings Research Institute Frankfurt is an Alpha city, Munich Alpha- and Hamburg and Berlin are Beta+ cities. http://www.spottedbylocals.com/blog/alpha-beta-and-gamma-cities/ Bold statement it is but I think these guys know more about it than you do. They have Mumbai as an "Alpha" city as well. Mumbai is a dump with massive poverty. Just because the real-estate prices are extornionate (due to it being a peninsula with nowhere to expand), doesn't mean it's a high-level desirable place to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, SteveMcD said: They have Mumbai as an "Alpha" city as well. Mumbai is a dump with massive poverty. Just because the real-estate prices are extornionate (due to it being a peninsula with nowhere to expand), doesn't mean it's a high-level desirable place to live Tell them, I couldn't give a shit. For business, really what that site is aimed at and most of what matters, not any cultural or political nonsense, places like Mumbai are more important than the beta cities. My point is that Munich and Frankfurt are more important cities at this time than Berlin as shown in the link. Any fool knows that Bavaria, as the biggest and richest state in Germany and Hessen with Frankfurt at its helm, are more significant than anywhere else in Germany. And there could also be an argument for NRW to be third by area/ state then hamburg then berlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, aaid said: Melbourne, Sydney, Manila, none have an underground It's only NYC in America that has one. Edit to say I meant a real one. There are one or two links from airports and the such in others but a huge underground network is only in NYC. Edited September 10, 2016 by Ormond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, Ormond said: It's only NYC in America that has one. Edit to say I meant a real one. There are one or two links from airports and the such in others but a huge underground network is only in NYC. Pretty sure that both San Francisco and Washington DC have underground metro systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, aaid said: Pretty sure that both San Francisco and Washington DC have underground metro systems. Washington's was hardly underground when I was there. Most of it is elevated. Not been to San Fran yet though. Chicago has a huge metro system that about 90% of is elevated. There are 2 lines that dip underground partially though. That was what I found DC was like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 5 hours ago, scoobydoo said: According to the Globalisation and World Rankings Research Institute Frankfurt is an Alpha city, Munich Alpha- and Hamburg and Berlin are Beta+ cities. http://www.spottedbylocals.com/blog/alpha-beta-and-gamma-cities/ Bold statement it is but I think these guys know more about it than you do. Safe to say they do! Interesting list but I wouldn't want to argue the case with a Berliner. Likewise having Milan rather than Rome as Italy's principal city... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 5 hours ago, scoobydoo said: According to the Globalisation and World Rankings Research Institute Frankfurt is an Alpha city, Munich Alpha- and Hamburg and Berlin are Beta+ cities. http://www.spottedbylocals.com/blog/alpha-beta-and-gamma-cities/ Bold statement it is but I think these guys know more about it than you do. Nice to see Perth streets ahead of all other Scottish cities on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Ormond said: Washington's was hardly underground when I was there. Most of it is elevated. Not been to San Fran yet though. Chicago has a huge metro system that about 90% of is elevated. There are 2 lines that dip underground partially though. That was what I found DC was like. The BART is substantially underground, including a tunnel under the bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 3 hours ago, aaid said: Pretty sure that both San Francisco and Washington DC have underground metro systems. Don't think San Fran has one. Got trams though. actually just googled it doesn't but building one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Don't think San Fran has one. Got trams though. actually just googled it doesn't but building one now. It had one when I went 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 33 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Don't think San Fran has one. Got trams though. actually just googled it doesn't but building one now. BART - Bay Area Rapid Transit - has 37 miles of underground line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, deecie said: It had one when I went 2 years ago. Proper underground or overground metro that goes underground a bit? Never used to have one anyway. But not been for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Ormond said: It's only NYC in America that has one. Edit to say I meant a real one. There are one or two links from airports and the such in others but a huge underground network is only in NYC. DC has quite a big underground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Ormond said: Washington's was hardly underground when I was there. Most of it is elevated. Not been to San Fran yet though. Chicago has a huge metro system that about 90% of is elevated. There are 2 lines that dip underground partially though. That was what I found DC was like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Ormond said: Washington's was hardly underground when I was there. Most of it is elevated. Not been to San Fran yet though. Chicago has a huge metro system that about 90% of is elevated. There are 2 lines that dip underground partially though. That was what I found DC was like. Had you been drinking heavily when you visited DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Just spent a week in Boston on America's oldest underground system. It feels like they still use some of the original trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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