Angus_Young Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) In a sort of a "having a bit of fun" way. Each to their own chum Edited October 9, 2014 by Angus_Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Each to their own chum "Chum"? I haven't been called that since Eton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler82 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And you still think it's "scary"? As you said above, I think you should again hazard a guess that I was using hyperbole in order to address the issues. Flure, being someone who worked so hard for independence, are you ok with folk saying that the '55' have won the battle but Yes will win the war (in whichever sense that may be)...? Will that help the case and create a friendly atmosphere on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And I'll say again - do you honestly think 100% of England fans love the queen? I'd hazard a guess a lot would prefer to be rid of her but they will still sing GSTQ. Same with other nations. Fine - I get your upset with the referendum result (plenty of us are) but why did you sing the anthem in the 1990s when Independence wasn't even a remote possibility?Stop being stupid. Do you honestly believe 100% of England fans sing the anthem? They don't. Not even all of their team sing it. Your point is utter nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 OK RB so you ate saying that England fans that sing it are only the royalists among them? That is even more nonsensical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And sadly they are desperately missing the point they need some of the 55% to win this 'war' as they put it! Instead they only strengthen the gap between the two with their ignorance. Potentially these are the people who were staggering around towns across the country with there cans of lager/buckie in hand with 'taps aff' handing out YES leaflets/posters...wow! I know plenty of No voters going to the game on Saturday who I will not alienate or abuse because they had an opinion and under no certain terms brand them for singing the national anthem. We sang it loud and proud together before therefore this should not change. Maybe it's 'No thanks' for now but if this kind of behaviour continues towards those who voted no it will never be a Yes... think about it before stereotyping people in the Unionist bracket etc. If any of those through this post have branded there fellow countrymen/women traitors, scum, not worthy of singing a song or attending a Scotland match regardless of the sport or whatever else if you could please enlighten me how this will benefit the Yes vote in future!?! This is why I have avoided the 45 pish that's been going about. It does nothing but alienate those that need to be converted.T One thing I do disagree with you on is No voters singing FoS. I wouldn't attack them for doing it but can't understand why they would want to sing it. They chose not rising and no nationhood so the song will be ridiculous from their lips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 As you said above, I think you should again hazard a guess that I was using hyperbole in order to address the issues. Flure, being someone who worked so hard for independence, are you ok with folk saying that the '55' have won the battle but Yes will win the war (in whichever sense that may be)...? Will that help the case and create a friendly atmosphere on Saturday? Yes. Yes, I am. I will still be working hard for independence, but I didn't fall out with anyone in the run up to the vote and I don't intend starting to fall out with people now. In fact, I know that I will be sitting down for a pre-match lunch on Saturday with at least one no-voter. I'm absolutely sure that the referendum will be discussed over a glass of wine - but we will not fall out. I never have and never will use terms like "traitor", "quisling" and all that nonsense. Being absolutely convinced that independence is the right future for Scotland and her people does not, of itself, make me right. Similarly, believing that Scotland's future is best served inside the Union does not make other people wrong. It means we have a difference of opinion. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes. Yes, I am. I will still be working hard for independence, but I didn't fall out with anyone in the run up to the vote and I don't intend starting to fall out with people now. In fact, I know that I will be sitting down for a pre-match lunch on Saturday with at least one no-voter. I'm absolutely sure that the referendum will be discussed over a glass of wine - but we will not fall out. I never have and never will use terms like "traitor", "quisling" and all that nonsense. Being absolutely convinced that independence is the right future for Scotland and her people does not, of itself, make me right. Similarly, believing that Scotland's future is best served inside the Union does not make other people wrong. It means we have a difference of opinion. That's all. Well said sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtscotland Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I don't mind No voters singing Flower of Scotland in fact it can only be seen as encouraging. Some of them will sing it because they love it and there will be some who will maybe "think again". Deep down, if you are categorically against something, you will not sing in support of it. For instance, even though I am not a rabid anti-royalist, I would not, under any circumstances, sing, or even pretend to sing, God Save the Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 A national anthem is for a Nation, and officially GTSQ is Scotland's national anthem, We sing/ sung FOS as a sort of 'up yours' to this as the rise in self determination took place... we didn't used to sing the verse with 'rise and be a nation again' remember the Donnie Munro days... the song was a wee bit of defiance and then we started singing the 'be a nation again' line with more vigour.. we have now however told the world that while we sing and shout about wanting to rise and be a nation again... well actually we don't , not really. I for one think there is a connection between the song and the country, a national anthem is for a nation, we decided to be part of another nation.. anyhoo, these are just my thoughts.. I don't know how I will feel on Sat.... but to sing the 'rise now and be a nation again' line will feel strange to me... but I will see how it goes on Sat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well said sir And you can shut it ya quisling, traitorous, no-voting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And you can shut it ya quisling, traitorous, no-voting ! That's more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes. Yes, I am. I will still be working hard for independence, but I didn't fall out with anyone in the run up to the vote and I don't intend starting to fall out with people now. In fact, I know that I will be sitting down for a pre-match lunch on Saturday with at least one no-voter. I'm absolutely sure that the referendum will be discussed over a glass of wine - but we will not fall out. I never have and never will use terms like "traitor", "quisling" and all that nonsense. Being absolutely convinced that independence is the right future for Scotland and her people does not, of itself, make me right. Similarly, believing that Scotland's future is best served inside the Union does not make other people wrong. It means we have a difference of opinion. That's all. Agreed. But for a nation that has such a large difference of opinion, FoS is quite simply a rediculous anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govanhill Jacobite Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 A national anthem is for a Nation, and officially GTSQ is Scotland's national anthem, We sing/ sung FOS as a sort of 'up yours' to this as the rise in self determination took place... we didn't used to sing the verse with 'rise and be a nation again' remember the Donnie Munro days... the song was a wee bit of defiance and then we started singing the 'be a nation again' line with more vigour.. we have now however told the world that while we sing and shout about wanting to rise and be a nation again... well actually we don't , not really. I for one think there is a connection between the song and the country, a national anthem is for a nation, we decided to be part of another nation.. anyhoo, these are just my thoughts.. I don't know how I will feel on Sat.... but to sing the 'rise now and be a nation again' line will feel strange to me... but I will see how it goes on Sat... As farv as I am aware, Scotland does not have an Official Anthem, GSTQ is Brtains and as such as we are part of it people assume its Scotlands official anthem, Its not, it was used as we are part of the UK, Hope that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler82 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes. Yes, I am. I will still be working hard for independence, but I didn't fall out with anyone in the run up to the vote and I don't intend starting to fall out with people now. In fact, I know that I will be sitting down for a pre-match lunch on Saturday with at least one no-voter. I'm absolutely sure that the referendum will be discussed over a glass of wine - but we will not fall out. I never have and never will use terms like "traitor", "quisling" and all that nonsense. Being absolutely convinced that independence is the right future for Scotland and her people does not, of itself, make me right. Similarly, believing that Scotland's future is best served inside the Union does not make other people wrong. It means we have a difference of opinion. That's all. I know you never used the terms 'traitor' and my question was asking if you were ok referring to this being a 'war', which in my opinion creates division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 War is used/perhaps misused all the time. Price wars at supermarket etc, nobody thinks its a real war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 A national anthem is for a Nation, and officially GTSQ is Scotland's national anthem, We sing/ sung FOS as a sort of 'up yours' to this as the rise in self determination took place... we didn't used to sing the verse with 'rise and be a nation again' remember the Donnie Munro days... the song was a wee bit of defiance and then we started singing the 'be a nation again' line with more vigour.. we have now however told the world that while we sing and shout about wanting to rise and be a nation again... well actually we don't , not really. I for one think there is a connection between the song and the country, a national anthem is for a nation, we decided to be part of another nation.. anyhoo, these are just my thoughts.. I don't know how I will feel on Sat.... but to sing the 'rise now and be a nation again' line will feel strange to me... but I will see how it goes on Sat... a lot of We in your post,discount me from that 45% including myself have told the world we want to rise again and actually,we do and many including myself believe we still will hence i see no reason not to belt it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Spot on Langtonian. Well over one and a half million still think we can rise to be a nation again. Besides the lyrics do not specify a date IE midnight on 23rd of September in the year of our lord two thousand and fourteen does it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Can folk nae get this in their heads? We voted to be a region. FFS min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Not 'we' Flora. 55% did 45% didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And interestingly how many born and bred Scots voted no of that percentage. Remember a lot of non-Scots got to vote as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Spot on Langtonian. Well over one and a half million still think we can rise to be a nation again. Besides the lyrics do not specify a date IE midnight on 23rd of September in the year of our lord two thousand and fourteen does it?? Can folk nae get this in their heads? We voted to be a region. FFS min. cut out the We ffs Not 'we' Flora. 55% did 45% didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I know you never used the terms 'traitor' and my question was asking if you were ok referring to this being a 'war', which in my opinion creates division. Of course I'm Ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobite Piper Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I know you never used the terms 'traitor' and my question was asking if you were ok referring to this being a 'war', which in my opinion creates division. Get a grip min. Do you really think I meant a real a War & Battles? Well I suppose I could easy put on my Jacobite clobber, get the targe off the wall & Basket Hilt Broadsword oot of the cabinet and chop down every 'NO' voter at Ibrox on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler82 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Get a grip min. Do you really think I meant a real a War & Battles? Well I suppose I could easy put on my Jacobite clobber, get the targe off the wall & Basket Hilt Broadsword oot of the cabinet and chop down every 'NO' voter at Ibrox on Saturday No I don't think that... I do think that creating division will be counterproductive to actually achieving independence in the future... However, I think you know that already ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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