phart Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 A wee change of pace, just reading a BBC article and came across this sentence. " But despite improved security, Iraq is still struggling to rebuild itself after four years of war against IS, the BBC's Martin Patience in Baghdad says. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44104600 As opposed to the invasion in 91, followed by decades of sanctions and then a final invasion in 2003 etc etc. Already the revisionism and history started yesterday. In other news more unarmed Palestinians shot dead as the Embassy is due to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 https://twitter.com/Liam_O_Hare/status/996010493033832448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 5 hours passed and not one person has commented Hamas will be delighted - over 50 new martyrs They actually wheeled up a disabled guy with no legs, gave him a slingshot and put him in the line of fire to be killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: 5 hours passed and not one person has commented Hamas will be delighted - over 50 new martyrs They actually wheeled up a disabled guy with no legs, gave him a slingshot and put him in the line of fire to be killed That moment when you and Labour Friends of Israel are in lockstep The Stomach-Churning Victim Blaming by “Labour Friends of Israel” 14 May, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig The true face of the organisation calling itself “Labour Friends of Israel” has been revealed today, in truly disgusting victim-blaming tweets reacting to the massacre of over fifty Palestinians – including yet more children – by the Israeli Defence Force in Gaza. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-stomach-churning-victim-blaming-by-labour-friends-of-israel/ Edited May 14, 2018 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, phart said: That moment when you and Labour Friends of Israel are in lockstep The Stomach-Churning Victim Blaming by “Labour Friends of Israel” 14 May, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig The true face of the organisation calling itself “Labour Friends of Israel” has been revealed today, in truly disgusting victim-blaming tweets reacting to the massacre of over fifty Palestinians – including yet more children – by the Israeli Defence Force in Gaza. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-stomach-churning-victim-blaming-by-labour-friends-of-israel/ Och for fuck sakes think about it Israel are cunts The cunts let everyone know that protests at the wall would not be tolerated because they are cunts The cunts have already proved they follow up their promises of cuntish evil actions by carrying them out knowing full well nobody including the UN gives a fuck What do the political and religious leaders of Palestine do ? Get as many young men up to the wall, stir them up and give them slingshots and make sure it's filmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: What do the political and religious leaders of Palestine do ? What should they do? On a lighter note, Israels most right wing club, whose fans protested against signing a couple of muslim players a few years ago, may pay homage to Trump by changing their club name as a mark of respect. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nekve7/israel-soccer-team-trump-beitar-jerusalem-nationalism-vgtrn?utm_source=vicetwitterus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, kumnio said: What should they do? Protest by all means - they had another mass demonstration in Bethlehem i believe that passed without incident But dont encourage poor souls to protest in Gaza when the likelihood is that they will be killed Israel should be punished but they wont be Israel should be ostracised but they wont be - certainly not by the USA Israel should not be allowed to use such force and there should be retaliation- but they are and there wont be It's just a meaningless loss of life Anyone that doesnt think it was encouraged by Hamas knowing the consequences and that they dont gain from this is mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: They actually wheeled up a disabled guy with no legs, gave him a slingshot and put him in the line of fire to be killed Id be very wary of believing stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/world/europe/norwegian-filmmakers-apologize-for-fake-syria-video.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: Id be very wary of believing stuff like this. 59 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony 58 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/world/europe/norwegian-filmmakers-apologize-for-fake-syria-video.html Fadi Abu Salah Edited May 15, 2018 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Fadi Abu Salah Not sure if you’re being ironic quoting the fake video article and posting a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Not sure if you’re being ironic quoting the fake video article and posting a picture I said they wheeled a guy with no legs up to the front to be killed I posted a pic of the said guy If you are saying he was killed (or reportedly killed) for propaganda then yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 hours ago, phart said: That moment when you and Labour Friends of Israel are in lockstep The Stomach-Churning Victim Blaming by “Labour Friends of Israel” 14 May, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig The true face of the organisation calling itself “Labour Friends of Israel” has been revealed today, in truly disgusting victim-blaming tweets reacting to the massacre of over fifty Palestinians – including yet more children – by the Israeli Defence Force in Gaza. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-stomach-churning-victim-blaming-by-labour-friends-of-israel/ LFI have now deleted their tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 https://www.cbsnews.com/video/how-are-palestinians-reacting-to-the-u-s-embassy-in-jerusalem-and-violence-in-gaza/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I said they wheeled a guy with no legs up to the front to be killed I posted a pic of the said guy If you are saying he was killed (or reportedly killed) for propaganda then yes I’m saying I would be wary about what to believe, regardless of photographic evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ParisInAKilt said: I’m saying I would be wary about what to believe, regardless of photographic evidence. Dude he's not even the first double amputee killed. Taking out legs happens a lot in this conflict to Palestinians. There was a big kerfuffle less than 6 months ago for the same thing. Obviously these guys have no agency they just sit in wheel chairs to be wheeled where Hamas wants them to be, not mad at losing half their body to airstrikes or anything. https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldiers-didnt-intentionally-kill-double-amputee-in-gaza-riot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Obviously a guy with a slingshot is a massive security threat and needs to be shot dead. Unless you're Goliath and it's David with the slingshot I'd say its pretty clearly an excessive use of force. Edited May 15, 2018 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Why is everyone loathed to face reality ? The reality of killing protesters is what Israel does - particularly in Gaza It's evil and something should be done Nothing will be done apart from some feeble denouncements and Israel will continue their vile policy of killing protesters in Gaza It's not a one off It's been happening for months Why would you organise protests in Gaza when you know what the outcome will be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) The Amritsar Massacre achieved nothing then? Read up on the history of civil disobedience, read about it's uses then realise you're mis-informed. why protest at Jallianwala Bagh is the British are just going to kill you. Edited May 15, 2018 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Why is everyone loathed to face reality ? The reality of killing protesters is what Israel does - particularly in Gaza It's evil and something should be done Nothing will be done apart from some feeble denouncements and Israel will continue their vile policy of killing protesters in Gaza It's not a one off It's been happening for months Why would you organise protests in Gaza when you know what the outcome will be ? Dying on your feet as opposed to living on your knees? I cant begin to imagine what it must be like to live in Palestine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, phart said: The Amritsar Massacre achieved nothing then? Read up on the history of civil disobedience, read about it's uses then realise you're mis-informed. why protest at Jallianwala Bagh is the British are just going to kill you. Mis-informed would be comparing anywhere else to Israel/Gaza and expecting the same results The IDF killed 1500 civilians in 2014 What's changed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Mis-informed would be comparing anywhere else to Israel/Gaza and expecting the same results The IDF killed 1500 civilians in 2014 What's changed ? The anger and the hatred have continued to grow. Oh, and the US government has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Weapons sold to Israel last year by the UK Assault rifles, Sniper Rifles, Components for combat aircraft, ammunition, weapon sights https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/699253/2017Q4-strategic-export-controls-country-pivot-report-2017.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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