Rossy Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'd say the attacks in France probably had a lot more to do with the way that the Arab minority has been treated by the French government since Algeria. Interestingly, I read somewhere that the 'Christian' country with the largest percentage of Moslems living there is South Africa. And they have little or no problems with Islamic fundamentalism, simply because the Moslem communities there are so woven into South African life that nobody blinks an eye. Well, I thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Iranian embassy, shooting of Yvonne Fletcher. Hard to categorise it as "islamic terrorist attack" Lockerbie too. Although the UK was an inadvertent victim there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Interestingly, I read somewhere that the 'Christian' country with the largest percentage of Moslems living there is South Africa. And they have little or no problems with Islamic fundamentalism, simply because the Moslem communities there are so woven into South African life that nobody blinks an eye. Well, I thought it was interesting. I think that the majority of muslims in SA are ethnically East Asian (Malaysian mainly) rather than African / Middle Eastern, which might be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'd say the attacks in France probably had a lot more to do with the way that the Arab minority has been treated by the French government since Algeria. Agree with your second point. Although there is a grievance about Algeria, your argument would hold more water if these attacks started after the Algerian conflict which ended in 1962. Not saying that there is no under lying problems on that subject though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Scotland No Party Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 People from the forces are cocks. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Although there is a grievance about Algeria, your argument would hold more water if these attacks started after the Algerian conflict which ended in 1962. Not saying that there is no under lying problems on that subject though. The point I was making is that its decades of treating Arab immigrants and their descendants like shit that has created the conditions where radicalisation can be fostered rather than it being linked to Algeria per-se. Which of course in no way is meant as a justification for terrorism but is to point out that there are unintended consequences of political policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 It's not as simple as that though. Look at muslim experience in UK. Treated better than France. All rights etc as native population. Migrated here by choice. The 1st immigrants no issues respectful etc. It's current modern generation who are radicalised. Social media. Growth of militant ideology. Something has changed for a militant minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 It's not as simple as that though. Look at muslim experience in UK. Treated better than France. All rights etc as native population. Migrated here by choice. The 1st immigrants no issues respectful etc. It's current modern generation who are radicalised. Social media. Growth of militant ideology. Something has changed for a militant minority. Nothing to do with the foreign policies of successive governments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I presume that we're sending Tornadoes off to bomb that hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, San Bernardino ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Who said they were trained in Syria? The people who wanted us to bomb Syria? Andy answers the question for the slow of thinking below Lucky for you he turned up with a get out clause eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Excellent post Alan. David Cameron doesnt do walking away. Well it is Friday morning Aye, but he does do pig face and leaving toddlers in pubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Agreed ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Lucky for you he turned up with a get out clause eh? No, tbh I thought it was obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 No, tbh I thought it was obvious So why didn't you just call them unarmed civilians then? I know that you will continue to claim this is what you meant and obviously that is easy to do because no one can prove otherwise but Simply don't believe you. So think we have stalemate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 So why didn't you just call them unarmed civilians then? I know that you will continue to claim this is what you meant and obviously that is easy to do because no one can prove otherwise but Simply don't believe you. So think we have stalemate. Can I ask what you thought I meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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