Lamia Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Good lord! My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Forgot to add - despite the fact that they have only ever promised to get clean and have been on the drink and drugs their entire lives and secretly admit they like it that way. Oh for goodness sake You have your big bad, which appears to be Westminster. Independence is your avenue out of that. My big bad is capital, Independence doesn't solve that. If that means I hate all the little children and Scottish people in your eyes so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A Scottish socialist voting No to independence and therefor spending the majority of their life under Conservative government. I've heard it all now. This is a wind up right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 alcoholics voted No ? - shit I must have been blootered that day I got it wrong - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A Scottish socialist voting No to independence and therefor spending the majority of their life under Conservative government. I've heard it all now. This is a wind up right? Most Socialists I know voted No. I was very much in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Oh for goodness sake You have your big bad, which appears to be Westminster. Independence is your avenue out of that. My big bad is capital, Independence doesn't solve that. If that means I hate all the little children and Scottish people in your eyes so be it. I am well aware that independence doesn't solve the problems and create a utopia. You mistake me for someone else if you think that. As for you last comment - petulance isn't a good look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 What was this thread about at the start? J Scunnered's hatred of the SNP. Every thread is about Scunnered's hatred of the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Most Socialists I know voted No. I was very much in the minority. Most [alleged] socialists voted for a conservative government then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 As for you last comment - petulance isn't a good look Careful of that Irony there... It's a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Scunnered's hatred of the SNP. Every thread is about Scunnered's hatred of the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Most [alleged] socialists voted for a conservative government then. That's super logic there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Careful of that Irony there... It's a killer. Case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Case closed Your lack of self awareness is... Astonishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 With a big chunk of Labour voters voting Yes and a bigger chunk of Labour voters voting No I'd say your original thinking of ousting the SNP after independence was quite rational. It's certainly more rational thinking there will be anything like socialism in a UK run country. So what changed your view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 That's super logic there. Just clarifying the situation for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Just clarifying the situation for you. And while doing so just slaughtered a big chunk of the "independence isn't about the SNP" argument. Behave yourself friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 No you weren't A danger to capitalism!!! Absolutely! At heart I think most people can relate to the goals of socialism. The problem is the socialists. And how you can claim to be a socialist when you campaigned for the Labour Party. Don’t give me all that claptrap about supporting the best person not a party, what a pile of convoluted horseshit that was looking back. Just a way to avoid taking any responsibility for the huge sins of the Labour party while in power while continuing to campaign for them on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is like a scene in "Mean Girls". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) And while doing so just slaughtered a big chunk of the "independence isn't about the SNP" argument. Behave yourself friend. Who said Independence was/is about the SNP? I have never claimed that. Making it up on the hoof are we. Edited November 24, 2015 by antidote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 With a big chunk of Labour voters voting Yes and a bigger chunk of Labour voters voting No I'd say your original thinking of ousting the SNP after independence was quite rational. It's certainly more rational thinking there will be anything like socialism in a UK run country. So what changed your view? For me to support independence in the future a positive case needs to be put forward on how it will benefit the working class. There is a lack of interest from Yes supporters in criticising the shityness of the Scottish Government in case it damages the independence argument. For example, the protest taking place tomorrow, Trade Unions, Labour and the SSP are taking part, plaudits to the SSP for doing so... However, the Greens and RIC won't take part as they don't want to damage the independence argument. that! The SG made a pledge and they need to be held accountable, not murmuring in the corners or criticising campaigners about damaging the Nationalist argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Who said Independence was/is about the SNP? I have never claimed that. Making it up on the hoof are we. ... Jesus christ. I'm not going to hold your hand for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is like a scene in "Mean Girls". There does seem to be a mob mentality at play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 ... Jesus christ. I'm not going to hold your hand for you I'd never let a pseudo socialist hold my hand ducky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'd never let a pseudo socialist hold my hand ducky. That explains your perpetual confusion at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 There does seem to be a mob mentality at play... Well I hope I am not being mean but I think you and Alan have more in common than you think. This tactic of spending nearly all your time attacking the SNP and almost no time selling your own party is what attracts the irritation of folk I think. Alan is a tory from what I can tell but you would never know it from anything he posts. He is too ashamed (it seems) to say it out loud so instead just attacks what he dislikes instead. Eventually folk get irked with that. With yourself you are seemingly much more up front but then not really (personally I think you are Labour through and through and always have been and always will be). What you do that Alan does not is you try to turn every thread into an anti snp post (I exaggerate but at times it seems like that). I think that generates a lot of frustration that occasionally boils over. If you employ these highly negative tactics you have to accept that it will attract some blowback from folk. You are not complete innocents here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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