exile Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It may not be big news to anyone who suspected/assumed Blair pledged to Bush to back him over Iraq, privately, while insisting publicly he hadn't made his mind up and would aim to go through UN channels (before backtracking and invading Iraq anyway). Still, these guys have to be held to account even if 13 years later. "Smoking gun emails reveal Blair's 'deal in blood' with George Bush over Iraq war was forged a YEAR before the invasion had even started" (in Mail on Sunday) Alex Salmond calls for Chilcot inquiry to examine secret Blair memo on Iraq Warhttp://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13877353.Alex_Salmond_calls_for_Chilcot_inquiry_to_examine_secret_Blair_memo_on_Iraq_War/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The last thing the Chilcott inquiry needs is any more documents to investigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Chilcott won't publish its findings while Blair is alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Anyone else think the delay on Chillcot is due to the unionist establishment trying to find a way to save/minimise Blair's discomfort?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The Robert Harris book indicates the truth about Team Blair IMHO. I also think they cleared a path for him with Smith's timely death (and later Cook, Kelly and who knows else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Tony Blair should be assassinated at the earliest possible time. The is never going to be tried, so rough justice it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Tony Blair should be on trial at the Hague for war crimes. Delete that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 If someone posts ahhhlooo snackbar or anything properly spelt then this thread will probably result in a drone strike somewhere in Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The Robert Harris book indicates the truth about Team Blair IMHO. I also think they cleared a path for him with Smith's timely death (and later Cook, Kelly and who knows else). Have you looked into the Knights of Malta stuff at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Chilcott won't publish its findings while Blair is alive. Correct, It is as obvious as obvious gets. He is being protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Have you looked into the Knights of Malta stuff at all? I have a feeling I will regret this but noooo.... I have not. What links might you have Harold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ha ha you (might) live to regret this Baby steps are what's required with material of this nature. The linked interview is ostensibly about the interviewee's book detailing Thatcher's links with illegal arms deals during the 80s. This may not be news to anyone but remains interesting nonetheless. The bits about the Knights of Malta is at the 10 minute mark and the Blair connection at around 14 mins. The Blair bit here is very short. As I said, without meaning to seem patronising, baby steps. I suggest watching the whole interview both for context and to judge the veracity/credibility of Mr Gilson. In all honest it probably won't come as any great revelation and many will have already supposed that something of this nature might have been a motivating factor. It's the verification, which is interesting. There's all sorts of other stuff available, some of it off the scale wacky and some not. People can dig around further if they feel inclined. God bless the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 If someone posts ahhhlooo snackbar or anything properly spelt then this thread will probably result in a drone strike somewhere in Dundee. If they hit the right bit it could only be an improvement. Not the bit where Kumnio is, obviously. I wouldn't want him assassinated. Or anybody else for that matter. Not even the nice Tony B Liar, honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 If they hit lochee, no one would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) . meh Edited October 19, 2015 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 a baby step too far for me. garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 a baby step too far for me. garbage. Think you may have missed the clue in the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 a baby step too far for me. garbage. Why must you always sit on the fence with your opinions, eh? I mentioned Peter Levenda to you previously and had I not read some of his meticulously researched work, which delves into some extraordinarily strange 'marriages' between intelligence personnel/occultism/religious orders I'd have dismissed this type of thing too. Gilson's claims have some resonance with this. It's difficult to find a trustworthy source for an accurate list of members for the KoMs and they're always undermined through association with off the scale tinfoil hattery. But if those lists are accurate, they make for some interesting bedfellows. Of course, if the tinfoil hat wearers made them up, that's unsurprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Why must you always sit on the fence with your opinions, eh? I mentioned Peter Levenda to you previously and had I not read some of his meticulously researched work, which delves into some extraordinarily strange 'marriages' between intelligence personnel/occultism/religious orders I'd have dismissed this type of thing too. Gilson's claims have some resonance with this. It's difficult to find a trustworthy source for an accurate list of members for the KoMs and they're always undermined through association with off the scale tinfoil hattery. But if those lists are accurate, they make for some interesting bedfellows. Of course, if the tinfoil hat wearers made them up, that's unsurprising. I do apologize Harry. I am a bit of a rude . I have found some of your previous links worth a view. But I would cut to the chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I do apologize Harry. I am a bit of a rude . I have found some of your previous links worth a view. But I would cut to the chase. This link is for a membership list, its the best link of a bad bunch. I can't find anything I'd term reliable. I can't attest to its accuracy but you're a discerning grown up so take a gander: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/kmlst1.htm Now just because you have a group of incredibly influential individuals all being members of the same religious club, a club with dubious, bloody and extreme origins, but which is now 'respectable', means f*ck all really. Doesn't it? My point is this. We've been discussing the actions of those apparently in power on other threads, describing them as psychos and sociopaths because their behaviour appears insane to any sane individual. Even if you factor in the greed, profiteering and mainstream geopolitical power grabbing/empire building. You've mentioned several times the utter disregard for human life and the difficulty in understanding how the UK could be a party to such brutality. So consider, hypothetically, that Gilson's inside information is on the money. That there is a deep seated, ancient, brutal spiritual component shaping foreign policy today in the States and UK. To my mind it helps to make sense of the apparent fervour with which the West wants to involve itself in wars in the Middle East. I'm not saying it's absolutely the case. All I'm saying is if you consider that fact, in the context of what we're witnessing now - and in Blair's early and unwavering support for Bush being discussed on this thread - that it seems to make more sense to a rational mind. Of course, they may all just be nuts. I think it's an interesting take on things and that we can put the 'conspiracy theory' pejorative to one side while we consider it. After all, that's all we're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 "Blair says he's sorry for Iraq War 'mistakes,' but not for ousting Saddam" http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/25/europe/tony-blair-iraq-war/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 "Blair says he's sorry for Iraq War 'mistakes,' but not for ousting Saddam" http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/25/europe/tony-blair-iraq-war/ Saw that, hate the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 This link is for a membership list, its the best link of a bad bunch. I can't find anything I'd term reliable. I can't attest to its accuracy but you're a discerning grown up so take a gander: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/kmlst1.htm Now just because you have a group of incredibly influential individuals all being members of the same religious club, a club with dubious, bloody and extreme origins, but which is now 'respectable', means f*ck all really. Doesn't it? My point is this. We've been discussing the actions of those apparently in power on other threads, describing them as psychos and sociopaths because their behaviour appears insane to any sane individual. Even if you factor in the greed, profiteering and mainstream geopolitical power grabbing/empire building. You've mentioned several times the utter disregard for human life and the difficulty in understanding how the UK could be a party to such brutality. So consider, hypothetically, that Gilson's inside information is on the money. That there is a deep seated, ancient, brutal spiritual component shaping foreign policy today in the States and UK. To my mind it helps to make sense of the apparent fervour with which the West wants to involve itself in wars in the Middle East. I'm not saying it's absolutely the case. All I'm saying is if you consider that fact, in the context of what we're witnessing now - and in Blair's early and unwavering support for Bush being discussed on this thread - that it seems to make more sense to a rational mind. Of course, they may all just be nuts. I think it's an interesting take on things and that we can put the 'conspiracy theory' pejorative to one side while we consider it. After all, that's all we're doing. Apologies, I haven't looked in on this thread for a few days, but isn't that just the Bilderberg Group by another name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The only thing Phoney Blair genuinely regrets about the Iraq war is that he didn't make more money out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Fair play to him. He's taken the pish out of everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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