scoobydoo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Haven't seen anything on here about it. Maybe because there is nothing to blame on the West. Nearly 800 dead in a stampede and the grand mufti says it was out of human control. Now 800 is a drop in the ocean to the number of people who attend the Hajj annually and with all of our petro dollars spent on the place you would think they could organise it a bit better. And you would also think they would invent something into their doctrine find some ancient text that says you can visit at any time and still be a 'good' muslim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 It's an absolute shambles. The roll call of deaths over the years is unbelievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 When you see it on tv it's totally unmanageable.also always thought the grand mufti should be in a carry on film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I despair at the human race when i see this kind of thing How much religious brainwashing is needed to make millions of people go on a pilgramage ? It's not the security at the event thats the problem - its religion Nobody seems to be mentioning that All religions are dangerous but the Islamic version is probably the most as Hajj shows Totally nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If you can afford to make the journey it is compulsory! Religion = Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 It's an absolute shambles. The roll call of deaths over the years is unbelievable! I'm actually surprised there isn't more deaths given over 2 million go there for Hajj. I understand they have changed some of the rituals so people don't hang about, wailing like about beheading non-believers no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm actually surprised there isn't more deaths given over 2 million go there for Hajj. I understand they have changed some of the rituals so people don't hang about, wailing like about beheading non-believers no doubt. Em, whit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 I despair at the human race when i see this kind of thing How much religious brainwashing is needed to make millions of people go on a pilgramage ? It's not the security at the event thats the problem - its religion Nobody seems to be mentioning that All religions are dangerous but the Islamic version is probably the most as Hajj shows Totally nuts I don't think the hajj itself is dangerous, it's what they do away from it that bothers me. Pilgrims will make pilgrimages and I agree that one must be slightly daft to take holidays from work for this kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Em, whit A stereotype - but probably not that far off in some Islamic quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Em, whit The one where they walk 7 times anti-clockwise round the block thing has been changed I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I don't think the hajj itself is dangerous, it's what they do away from it that bothers me. Pilgrims will make pilgrimages and I agree that one must be slightly daft to take holidays from work for this kind of stuff. Its 2015 Who the needs to make a religious pilgramage apart from the ignorant and brainwashed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Each their own and all that, but in the cold light of day, throwing stones at a wall to get rid of the devil - FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Each their own and all that, but in the cold light of day, throwing stones at a wall to get rid of the devil - FFS. Especially when they end up braining folk standing at the front of the crowd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Each their own and all that, but in the cold light of day, throwing stones at a wall to get rid of the devil - FFS. ken, 2 million a year do it and the devil is still here. Thick or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Religion is ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Religion is ridiculoushere here Sundays ur fur hangovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The deaths were the will of God according to the Saudis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The deaths were the will of God according to the Saudis. Insha'Allah. Move on. Come again next year. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If it wasn't for religion the world might have half a chance of being a reasonably happy and peaceful place. Either that or it wouldn't exist at all cos there would've been nobody to build it....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 ken, 2 million a year do it and the devil is still here. Thick or what? Aye, mair stones required. Canae possibly expect to do it with just 2 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If it wasn't for religion the world might have half a chance of being a reasonably happy and peaceful place. It already is for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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