WeLuvIrnBru Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Not as good as some of our English born players People are too quick to knock our Scottish based players. From what I have seen of Jack he is good enough to play at Championship level down south, which is where he may end up if he has another good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 WeLuvIrnBru, on 17 Jul 2015 - 08:52 AM, said: he is too good to play at Championship level down south, Fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeLuvIrnBru Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Fixed it for you You may well be right, and I hope that you are.My point was that I believe he is as good as some of the midfielders that frequent our squad,I wish people would at least try and talk up the talent that is produced in Scotland. Instead the mentality of many is that if he plays for any other team outside Celtic in Scotland,then he cannot be good enough. ... I believe we have had a right good few Scottish players come through the ranks in SCOTLAND recently,and long may that continue. To say that he is not as good as we have is more than a little patronising and very blinkered in my view. If we keep talking down our game domestically, then how do we believe that it will get any better? Anyway,rant over..... Edited July 18, 2015 by WeLuvIrnBru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think Jack is a cracking player but he plays in our strongest position. He'll get (lots of) caps but he has to work hard to get ahead of some good players in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think Jack is a cracking player but he plays in our strongest position. He'll get (lots of) caps but he has to work hard to get ahead of some good players in his position.He's worked very hard and done a lot more to earn caps than many people who've been given them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 He's worked very hard and done a lot more to earn caps than many people who've been given them. I wasn't saying he hasn't. But he's not done enough yet to get ahead of the likes of Brown, Morrison, Fletcher and McArthur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I wasn't saying he hasn't. But he's not done enough yet to get ahead of the likes of Brown, Morrison, Fletcher and McArthur. I'd say he's done enough to earn a run out in a game like the Qatar one. We need to get players caps and experience, so that they are able to step in more comfortably in a big game if injuries/suspensions dictate that they have to. We can agree to disagree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzle Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I agree with parklife that jack deserves a call up,our midfield is getting older and id prefer some younger players to start picking up games here and there so we dont end up in the situation like the early 2000's with berti having only 4 or 5 experienced players to choose from,although the team should have a few more years left in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Overthebar Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 You may well be right, and I hope that you are. My point was that I believe he is as good as some of the midfielders that frequent our squad,I wish people would at least try and talk up the talent that is produced in Scotland. Instead the mentality of many is that if he plays for any other team outside Celtic in Scotland,then he cannot be good enough. ... I believe we have had a right good few Scottish players come through the ranks in SCOTLAND recently,and long may that continue. To say that he is not as good as we have is more than a little patronising and very blinkered in my view. If we keep talking down our game domestically, then how do we believe that it will get any better? Anyway,rant over..... Who do you have in mind? I cant think of too many. Certainly not too many that have challenged for a place in the team recently. On Ryan Jack - i agree he looks a good player but he is no youngster anymore and as Pasta Mick has said its our strongest position. Is he currently better than Brown, Morrison, Fletcher and McArthur? Probably not - does he deserve his chance in friendlies and in the squad - probably yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think Jack is a cracking player but he plays in our strongest position. He'll get (lots of) caps but he has to work hard to get ahead of some good players in his position. Surely Celtic should be hoovering him up soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I'd say he's done enough to earn a run out in a game like the Qatar one. We need to get players caps and experience, so that they are able to step in more comfortably in a big game if injuries/suspensions dictate that they have to. We can agree to disagree though. I haven't seen him play much but agree we need to be getting these guys game time in friendly games so that if needed and when they are ready they have a bit of experience rather than just being flung in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahana-oni Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I thought Parklife was against anyone who wasn't born and bred in Scotland. Changed his tune once be knew he was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I thought Parklife was against anyone who wasn't born and bred in Scotland. Changed his tune once be knew he was wrong Jack was born in Scotland Anyway I'm sure Parky can defend himself but he's never said that, nor has anyone on here in terms of eligibility that I'm aware of. You're talking shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahana-oni Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Nope Jack Harper was born in Spain. Parklife is always moaning about English born players. The guy has a serious chip on his shoulder. I'm sure he said he didn't believe James Morrison should be in our squad. Along with other guys like Ritchie and Philips etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Leigh Griffiths hat trick v Eibar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Nope Jack Harper was born in Spain. Parklife is always moaning about English born players. The guy has a serious chip on his shoulder. I'm sure he said he didn't believe James Morrison should be in our squad. Along with other guys like Ritchie and Philips etc. Aren't we talking about Ryan Jack? He's not alone in thinking those players shouldn't be in our squad for reasons that have been well argued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Tom Cairney also on target for Fulham in their win over Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Nope Jack Harper was born in Spain. Parklife is always moaning about English born players. The guy has a serious chip on his shoulder. I'm sure he said he didn't believe James Morrison should be in our squad. Along with other guys like Ritchie and Philips etc. You are clearly an idiot who cannot read and understand. I like you though, you cling to your idiocy and proudly display it for all to see. That takes guts. Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 You are clearly an idiot who cannot read and understand. I like you though, you cling to your idiocy and proudly display it for all to see. That takes guts. Well done Nah, you are clearly racist for thinking James "I don't feel very Scottish" Morrison should not be playing for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeLuvIrnBru Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Who do you have in mind? I cant think of too many. Certainly not too many that have challenged for a place in the team recently. On Ryan Jack - i agree he looks a good player but he is no youngster anymore and as Pasta Mick has said its our strongest position. Is he currently better than Brown, Morrison, Fletcher and McArthur? Probably not - does he deserve his chance in friendlies and in the squad - probably yes Robertson for one. The likes of mackay-steven and Armstrong are knocking on the door. Bain at dundee, gauld...there are more that will be there o there abouts in a few years hopefully.Not to mention the likes of snodgrass, Hutton, gordon, Marshall, mcgregor, brown, Steven Fletcher,naismith,Griffiths that were all developed up here. Edited July 18, 2015 by WeLuvIrnBru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Overthebar Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Robertson for one. The likes of mackay-steven and Armstrong are knocking on the door. Bain at dundee, gauld...there are more that will be there o there abouts in a few years hopefully. Not to mention the likes of snodgrass, Hutton, gordon, Marshall, mcgregor, brown, Steven Fletcher,naismith,Griffiths that were all developed up here. You did say youngsters coming through recently - for recently i would regard last couple of years and players 23 or under. The majority of players you mentioned are not recent and Mackay-Steven is 25 in a months time - not a youngster. I'll give you Robertson and hopefully Gauld but thats about it. Not many others challenging for places in an ageing national team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Ally Reynolds of Limassol in Cyprus played again the other night as they won 4-0 in the Europa League. 18 year old who moved there at 9 from Edinburgh.... very highly rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Nah, you are clearly racist for thinking James "I don't feel very Scottish" Morrison should not be playing for Scotland.The fact that he's wittering on about players "born and bred" in Scotland shows that he's never actually read and understood and post I've made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Don't reckon Ian Black will be back in the squad anytime soon after playing for Berwick Rangers this evening.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 CL qualifiaers Lech Poznan- FK Sarajevo 6th minute, Barry Douglas fantastic free kick and 1:0 for the hosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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