jellybean Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 When I was 10 or 11, I wanted every strip, flag, t-shirt, badge, video, record, sticker, mug, keying and every other bit of tat that the club would try to sell me. They could do no wrong and if they got beat it was the referee's fault. The casuals were there to protect normal fans so they were cool as well. I grew up though and no longer indulge in such childish behaviour or see things in such an unbalanced view. Football merchandise is overpriced shite, my team play crap from time to time and casuals are cowardly scum bags. That leads me to believe that e.k. is still a bit younger than many on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Very sadly, I've no problem in accepting that there is a very good chance that Stokes received racist/sectarian abuse at Tynecastle. In fact I'd say he almost certainly did from a few, probably quite a few, individuals. Deeply regrettable, and something that should be condemned unreservedly. Sort of the point Budge was making. Needs to be dealt with, the individuals concerned identified and dealt with by the club and/or police. Nothing whatever to do with the Tonev/Logan thing though, which involves abuse of a player by an opposing club's player. Whataboutery again. Exactly. A total inability to look at a situation in isolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 When I was 10 or 11, I wanted every strip, flag, t-shirt, badge, video, record, sticker, mug, keying and every other bit of tat that the club would try to sell me. They could do no wrong and if they got beat it was the referee's fault. The casuals were there to protect normal fans so they were cool as well. I grew up though and no longer indulge in such childish behaviour or see things in such an unbalanced view. Football merchandise is overpriced shite, my team play crap from time to time and casuals are cowardly scum bags. That leads me to believe that e.k. is still a bit younger than many on here... Maybe, me being older and therefore more mature , I can look at the evidence subjectively. You still seem to be at the club can do no wrong stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 How do you know this? Isn't he denying he said anything? I would also have assumed he would have stated what he did say to highlight that Logan misheard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Maybe, me being older and therefore more mature , I can look at the evidence subjectively. You still seem to be at the club can do no wrong stage. You are very, very, very subjective, though your post suggests you'd like to seen as objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Isn't he denying he said anything? I would also have assumed he would have stated what he did say to highlight that Logan misheard. All I know is that he denied racially abusing Logan. I doubt he actually remembers exactly what he said in the middle of a football match unless he did say those words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The SFA are always being slated on here for making hasty and stupid decisions I would suggest this is the latest one. You could be right, or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 You could be right, or wrong. I'm definitely right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I'm definitely right or wrong. That'll be right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 That'll be right.... Aye, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Aye, probably Listen, and no bias (hopefully) please. Do you not think it's bizarre that a 7 game ban would be handed out without (some) foundation? Or are you going to revert to type and suggest it's the SFA at their best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Listen, and no bias (hopefully) please. Do you not think it's bizarre that a 7 game ban would be handed out without (some) foundation? Or are you going to revert to type and suggest it's the SFA at their best? I think if he was bang to rights Celtic would have washed their hands of him, what do they gain by backing an obvious racist? Especially since we have quite a few non white players ourselves and he's a loan player anyway. As for me reverting to type, slating the SFA is the standard response of any Scottish football supporter, and not without reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 ek. Breathe in and take yourself down the Monty for a pint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 ek. Breathe in and take yourself down the Monty for a pint. I'm watching the footie. Decent game. I like the look of the boy Armstrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I think if he was bang to rights Celtic would have washed their hands of him, what do they gain by backing an obvious racist? Especially since we have quite a few non white players ourselves and he's a loan player anyway. As for me reverting to type, slating the SFA is the standard response of any Scottish football supporter, and not without reason. That wasn't the reverting to type I had in mind. Thank you tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 That wasn't the reverting to type I had in mind. Thank you tough. I'm a wee softie, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I'm watching the footie. Decent game. I like the look of the boy Armstrong. Good finish, 3-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Good finish, 3-0. All the seats, stewards and pie stalls intact as well, great result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 All the seats, stewards and pie stalls intact as well, great result. Can't say the same for the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Good to see Ek is still making a James hunt of himself and thinking Tonev should be tried under different rules. Rules different to the ones currently in place and the ones his club agreed to. Obviously it's different when his team employs a guy who doles out racist abuse. Celtic have come out of this terribly. From the manager and captain saying they "know" Tonev didn't dish out racist abuse, to their fans slurs on Logan. It's shameful. Every khunt can see it apart from Celric fans though. Which is hardly a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Good to see Ek is still making a James hunt of himself and thinking Tonev should be tried under different rules. Rules different to the ones currently in place and the ones his club agreed to. Obviously it's different when his team employs a guy who doles out racist abuse. Celtic have come out of this terribly. From the manager and captain saying they "know" Tonev didn't dish out racist abuse, to their fans slurs on Logan. It's shameful. Every khunt can see it apart from Celric fans though. Which is hardly a surprise. *Replies so parkie gets a wee bit of self esteem, after all. it's nearly Christmas* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Tonev is in good company the english fa are charging dave whelan ( wigan chairman) and mario ballateli with improper racist conduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Tonev is in good company the english fa are charging dave whelan ( wigan chairman) and mario ballateli with improper racist conduct. Hopefully one day, in the not too distant future, these morons will learn to do it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Confirmed - still a racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 So there we have it, one man's word against another is enough to get you a 7 match ban in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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