Guest ElChris04 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Thought this was worth posting. 1. Steve Clarke mentioned there was players he spoke to that had wedding plans which couldn’t be changed so this basically all but confirms one of which was Snodgrass who I guess is still involved with Scotland set up and hasn’t retired from international duty? And 2.. Robertson has just won the champions league and has still remembered to congratulate Snodgrass on his wedding. Top man haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Snodgrass has never retired from international football but he hasn’t exactly been committed to playing for us recently. I’m pretty sure he must be one the players who had a bit of a bust up or disagreement with McLeish. I’m guessing he never had any intention of being involved in our games this month since he arranged his wedding for this week. If he is now happy to play under Clarke then I would imagine he’ll be in the next squad if he’s fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I think he has a wedding during these games coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, bigfingers said: I think he has a wedding during these games coming up. He does. Not really much of an excuse though is it? If I was a Scotland international I’d have booked my wedding in late June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) . 14 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: He does. Not really much of an excuse though is it? If I was a Scotland international I’d have booked my wedding in late June. Maybe he booked the wedding 2 years in advance thinking his scotland days would be done by now. Edited June 2, 2019 by bigfingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, bigfingers said: . Maybe he booked the wedding 2 years in advance thinking his scotland days would be done by now. I doubt he would have thought that. He probably booked it without any thought of internationals same as Fleck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: I doubt he would have thought that. He probably booked it without any thought of internationals same as Fleck. Flecks not really been in the reckoning until recently tbf. Overall I don't think either are that big a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, bigfingers said: Flecks not really been in the reckoning until recently tbf. Overall I don't think either are that big a loss. Aye Fleck probably assumed he wouldn’t be involved. Shows a lack of ambition really. I think Snodgrass would probably have started if he had been available but Fleck probably wouldn’t have. Neither would have made the difference between winning or losing our next two games though so as you say, no big loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Texas Pete said: He does. Not really much of an excuse though is it? If I was a Scotland international I’d have booked my wedding in late June. Clubs are all back in pre season in late June so that wouldn’t be possible, this period is pretty much the only time of the year a player knows they’ll be off now. Quite harsh especially considering the qualifying fixtures weren’t known till 6 months ago as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 10 hours ago, bigfingers said: I think he has a wedding during these games coming up. Why arrange your wedding for an international window Why not the week after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Texas Pete said: Aye Fleck probably assumed he wouldn’t be involved. Shows a lack of ambition really. I think Snodgrass would probably have started if he had been available but Fleck probably wouldn’t have. Neither would have made the difference between winning or losing our next two games though so as you say, no big loss. How do you know neither would make the difference between winning and losing Both could easily have arranged their weddings a little later to also fit in international duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 hours ago, BraveheartGordon said: Clubs are all back in pre season in late June so that wouldn’t be possible, this period is pretty much the only time of the year a player knows they’ll be off now. Quite harsh especially considering the qualifying fixtures weren’t known till 6 months ago as well. The fixtures weren’t known but there is always international football in the first two weeks of June every two years. It wouldn’t have been difficult to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Bino's said: How do you know neither would make the difference between winning and losing Both could easily have arranged their weddings a little later to also fit in international duty Well I don’t know for sure but I don’t ever remember Snodgrass being the difference in any of the games he’s played. Both are replaceable was the point I was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Texas Pete said: Well I don’t know for sure but I don’t ever remember Snodgrass being the difference in any of the games he’s played. Both are replaceable was the point I was making. Zagreb 2013. Ljubljana 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Footballers are human beings first and foremost, not automatons. They have a right to a private life as well, even if they are in the public eye. Some on this thread appear to believe these guys are public property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Barney Rubble said: Footballers are human beings first and foremost, not automatons. They have a right to a private life as well, even if they are in the public eye. Some on this thread appear to believe these guys are public property. Why didn't he arrange his wedding in the middle of the season He's a right to a private life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 When I was arranging all 3 of my weddings, I can honestly say I never gave a second thought to my work, particularly any part time work I may or may not have been doing at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marky said: When I was arranging all 3 of my weddings, I can honestly say I never gave a second thought to my work, particularly any part time work I may or may not have been doing at the time. I'm not surprised - arranging one wedding requires the intervention of the United Nations to mediate, so arranging three simultaneously must have required the patience of the Holy Ghost and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Footballers are human beings first and foremost, not automatons. They have a right to a private life as well, even if they are in the public eye. Some on this thread appear to believe these guys are public property. Of course they have a right to a private life. That doesn’t mean they can’t plan ahead. Obviously Snodgrass wasn’t bothered about potentially playing for Scotland in June this year. That’s up to him. Plenty of other players would have arranged their wedding for 15th June in case they were selected. Everyone is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Marky said: When I was arranging all 3 of my weddings, I can honestly say I never gave a second thought to my work, particularly any part time work I may or may not have been doing at the time. Unless you’re a professional footballer it’s hardly the same thing. Unless you have a close season in your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Of course they have a right to a private life. That doesn’t mean they can’t plan ahead. Obviously Snodgrass wasn’t bothered about potentially playing for Scotland in June this year. That’s up to him. Plenty of other players would have arranged their wedding for 15th June in case they were selected. Everyone is different. Nonsense. Who is anyone on this forum to adjudicate when a footballer chooses to get married? Are you going to tell them when they can arrange their kids to be born? Edited June 2, 2019 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Nonsense. Who is anyone on this forum to adjudicate when a footballer chooses to get married? Nonsense? We obviously have different opinions. That doesn’t make mine nonsense. I have already stated it’s up to him when he gets married. It does indicate he’s not all that bothered about playing for Scotland though. As does his numerous call offs over the last couple of years. If he was fully committed to Scotland he would likely have arranged his wedding for another time. It’s up to him what he does though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 He’s entitled to have his wedding whenever he wants. Just as fans are entitled to question why he couldn’t have picked a free weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Nonsense. Who is anyone on this forum to adjudicate when a footballer chooses to get married? Are you going to tell them when they can arrange their kids to be born? Firstly, that’s hardly the same thing. Secondly, I am not trying to tell anyone when to do anything. All I have suggested is players who are committed to playing for their country would probably arrange their wedding for a date when they knew there would be no games. In fairness to Snodgrass he might not even have given it a second thought and just assumed we wouldn’t be playing or something. I’m sure plenty of other players would have realised that we would likely be playing a competitive match and arranged their weddings accordingly. As I mentioned already, everyone is different and it’s hardly crime of the century. I can almost guarantee that there will be no England players missing their match against the Netherlands because they’re getting married though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 We can fully agree that it's hardly crime of the century. Which is exactly why it's a non-issue in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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