ronaldhinos dentist Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) In less than a week since the vote, we have had threats to cut Scotland's funding; no sign of the promised powers or a timetable; more oil in scottish waters that can be extracted; Westminster mp's gathering to exclude scottish mp's from English voting, therefore creating an English parliament; the Labour Party talking about the threat to privatisation of the nhs; the prime minister letting the cat out the bag about what the queen wanted from the referendum and we are about to be led into another war. Did I miss anything? What a week, none of it positive for Scotland...... Edited September 25, 2014 by ronaldhinos dentist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobite Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 In less than a week since the vote, we have had threats to cut Scotland's funding; no sign of the promised powers or a timetable; more oil in scottish waters that can be extracted; Westminster mp's gathering to exclude scottish mp's from English voting, therefore creating an English parliament; the Labour Party talking about the threat to privatisation of the nhs; the prime minister letting the cat out the bag about what the queen wanted from the referendum and we are about to be led into another war. Did I miss anything? What a week, none of it positive for Scotland...... You missed the bit about the collapse of the SNP's membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldhinos dentist Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ha ha. Membership rise proportional to all of the above? I def think so. The more Westminster and labour do, the more SNP gains.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 In less than a week since the vote, we have had threats to cut Scotland's funding; no sign of the promised powers or a timetable; more oil in scottish waters that can be extracted; Westminster mp's gathering to exclude scottish mp's from English voting, therefore creating an English parliament; the Labour Party talking about the threat to privatisation of the nhs; the prime minister letting the cat out the bag about what the queen wanted from the referendum and we are about to be led into another war. Did I miss anything? What a week, none of it positive for Scotland...... Ugly scenes in George Square (and media suddenly not so interested when the intimidation is pro-British) Internet abuse of Andy Murray (and media suddenly not so interested in abuse when from cyberbrits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ugly scenes in George Square (and media suddenly not so interested when the intimidation is pro-British) Internet abuse of Andy Murray (and media suddenly not so interested in abuse when from cyberbrits) correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanday Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 And they call this a democracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Willie Rennie has warned nationalists not to seek an "ultra-extreme" form of devolution http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29393578 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Willie Rennie has warned nationalists not to seek an "ultra-extreme" form of devolution http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29393578 Rennie can do one. Can't stand that glaikit wee creep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Speaking in Perth to one man and a sleeping dog no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Willie Rennie has warned nationalists not to seek an "ultra-extreme" form of devolution http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29393578 Is the LibDem core policy of federalism not an extreme form of devolution?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) This could go under various threads but seems best to fit the mood of this one, of things anticipated on here before the vote, but now facing up to the reality of what the no vote/ 'extra powers' could have in store... Scottish independence: Warning over tax powers http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-warning-over-tax-powers-1-3563571 "far from meaning a larger net financial transfer from London to Edinburgh, the effect is likely to be some very awkward tax and spending decisions for the new Scottish government elected in May 2016. More powers could mean more pain, or be careful what you wish for" Edited October 7, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldhinos dentist Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Apparently any money raised from new tax powers will be taken off the amount given to us in the block grant. So. We will just be the same then? How is that an extra power? It is becoming a fkn joke...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Apparently any money raised from new tax powers will be taken off the amount given to us in the block grant. So. We will just be the same then? How is that an extra power? It is becoming a fkn joke...... It amazes me that anyone thought that this was actually a selling point for a No vote. More powers means we get more cuts to our budget than they were planning already meaning we will either have to increase taxes to fill that hole or cut public services. Ooohh... well what a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Those who voted no on the pretence of these extra powers are in for a shock so is broon when the tories stab him and his red tory neebors in the back.My father in law on the other hand voted no because he hates salmond and the snp for whatever reason.He is in for a shock aswell when i show him my snp membership card when it arrives.He will blow a gasket whilst banning me and my dog from visiting on a saturday morning for a coffee and biscuits for hound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Deserve all we get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The people that voted YES want to keep going until it is a YES. (It's the No voters that deserve all they get.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobite Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Apparently any money raised from new tax powers will be taken off the amount given to us in the block grant. So. We will just be the same then? How is that an extra power? It is becoming a fkn joke...... Not sure it will be the same. Is it not a case that currently we hand over all our wages to London and then they give us some pocket money back. Now it looks like we will still hand all our wages over to London. However they have said it is OK for us to take a wee part time job and we can keep our wages from that but they are still going to take all our wages from our main job and cut our pocket money as we now have that wee part time job. Suppose we do have that new railway to pay for so we really shouldn't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldhinos dentist Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Does this mean that whatever we raise in taxes, and is subsequently taken off the block grant, the money taken off remains at Westminster? Are we effectively taxing scotland to help fund Westminster even more? Is that right or have i got it all wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) What is the basis of the Scottish Govt awarding the Scotrail contract to a Dutch based company at the expense of Aberdeen based First Group? Is it price alone? Edited October 8, 2014 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 First group run a shite train service. It's not a Juche-style state. Am glad they got booted out and I don't even live in scotland. Every time I go I seem to get one of their filthy, overcrowded cattle wagons though, so I hope there's an improvement. And some yellow double decker trains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It's not just trains First Group are shite at, their busses are awful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I haven't fully looked into it, but at first glance it's a shite decision and I doubt my stance will change when I look over the details. If the Scottish Government had a desire for a fully public railway then an interim contract with First Group would surely have been more accessible? I reckon we're seeing a glimpse of what Independence would have been like under an SNP government... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What is the basis of the Scottish Govt awarding the Scotrail contract to a Dutch based company at the expense of Aberdeen based First Group? Is it price alone? Tender docs are publically available. Go have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I haven't fully looked into it, but at first glance it's a shite decision and I doubt my stance will change when I look over the details. If the Scottish Government had a desire for a fully public railway then an interim contract with First Group would surely have been more accessible? I reckon we're seeing a glimpse of what Independence would have been like under an SNP government... Transport Scotland is limited in what it can do about the terms of the tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Tender docs are publically available. Go have a look.can you summarize for a village idiot such as myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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