Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, bonzo said: What about the wee cherubs? Yes bonzo, they do - Lucifer was a cherubim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Kimba said: Yes, man made it up that angels have wings and are female - always the opposite to what God says. God says earth isn't moving, man says it's spinning God says earth is the centre of the creation, man says it's an insignificant spinning ball amongst many others on, and on......rebellion. AKA Critical thinking and reasoning combined with physics, biology, chemistry and empirical evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Kimba said: Yes bonzo, they do - Lucifer was a cherubim. Right, everyday is a school day I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Well, because we all have the sin nature from Adam (be honest with yourself here...we sin), it makes us rebel against the truth due to our pride. Sadly the powers that be are the worst because they are taken in by money and power in this short physical existence, so they want everyone else to go against God as well. They believe Lucifer was the 'good guy' that got us out of the garden of eden and gave us the knowledge. So they put out lies to the uninitiated masses (the powers that be are all initiated into secret societies that are about 'finding the light, which when you get to the top you find out is Lucifer) about nothing exploding into everything and we came from the soup and monkeys (or whatever the theory is now, completely irrational when you think about it). God has given us the conscience though, so we have an internal witness to know He is the truth and of course we see clearly the creation. It's just so sad that much of Christendom has a false gospel that will save no-one. I pray that people believe the true gospel and get saved in this dispensation of God's Grace. Anyhow, sorry, I don't want to derail the thread but just wanted to get the truth out to souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lairdyfaeinverclyde Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Adam is a sinner, robbing people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 Cor 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. The last Adam is Jesus Christ - he fixed it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kimba said: Well, because we all have the sin nature from Adam (be honest with yourself here...we sin), it makes us rebel against the truth due to our pride. Sadly the powers that be are the worst because they are taken in by money and power in this short physical existence, so they want everyone else to go against God as well. They believe Lucifer was the 'good guy' that got us out of the garden of eden and gave us the knowledge. So they put out lies to the uninitiated masses (the powers that be are all initiated into secret societies that are about 'finding the light, which when you get to the top you find out is Lucifer) about nothing exploding into everything and we came from the soup and monkeys (or whatever the theory is now, completely irrational when you think about it). God has given us the conscience though, so we have an internal witness to know He is the truth and of course we see clearly the creation. It's just so sad that much of Christendom has a false gospel that will save no-one. I pray that people believe the true gospel and get saved in this dispensation of God's Grace. Anyhow, sorry, I don't want to derail the thread but just wanted to get the truth out to souls. Yes - yes you do and did The truth as you put it is what you believe You are trying to force your beliefs onto others like a Dictator which similarly your God is You use the word irrational in the same sentence as Garden of Eden and Lucifer We didnt evolve from Monkeys - and neither did we evolve from Apes We do however share the same ancestor of the Apes - our evolutionary line went one way and the apes another Hopefully the discovery of water on Mars will give more credence to the theory of how life started on earth particularly if it's found to contain bacteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Yes - yes you do and did The truth as you put it is what you believe You are trying to force your beliefs onto others like a Dictator which similarly your God is You use the word irrational in the same sentence as Garden of Eden and Lucifer We didnt evolve from Monkeys - and neither did we evolve from Apes We do however share the same ancestor of the Apes - our evolutionary line went one way and the apes another Hopefully the discovery of water on Mars will give more credence to the theory of how life started on earth particularly if it's found to contain bacteria That's just your sin nature working against the truth. If there was no God, you wouldn't be hating on Him. You have a God given conscience - try listening to that instead of the sin nature (pride being the main one here). God wants you in eternity, not this drop in the bucket existence. Have a think about it anyway. I'll leave you there. Edited July 26, 2018 by Kimba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kimba said: That's just your sin nature working against the truth. If there was no God, you wouldn't be hating on Him. You have a God given conscience - try listening to that instead of the sin nature (pride being the main one here). God wants you in eternity, not this drop in the bucket existence. Have a think about it anyway. I'll leave you there. You cant hate something of which there is no proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said: You cant hate something of which there is no proof I'll start a thread and you can tell me there where the observable evidence is for evolution. We can leave this thread for the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Let's get this one rolling again. Oldie but goodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exile Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Edited July 27, 2018 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kimba Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said: Adam is a sinner, robbing people? Wonder if he (Stuart Goddard) was named after Origen Adamantius ? Origen was instrumental in getting the corrupt Alexandrian texts into circulation ...hence your new age bible perversions that most "Christians" read these days. https://ambassadorsfortherisenchristministries.org/2009/05/14/biblos/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kimba Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 11 hours ago, bonzo said: Right, everyday is a school day I suppose. 2 Corinthians 11: 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 😓😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Kimba said: 2 Corinthians 11: 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 😓😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Great vid sir, just don't put your trust in man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 6:01 AM, Kimba said: Angels are male and don't have wings. How many wings do the Seraphim have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: How many wings do the Seraphim have? does that get folk saved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 The Seraphim have six wings. We have to take the Bible as a whole. It's not a buffet to pick and choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: The Seraphim have six wings. We have to take the Bible as a whole. It's not a buffet to pick and choose from. Agree, which is why you should believe right division given to Paul, instead of carrying on in thinking you are spiriual israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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