scoobydoo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm sure a fair percentage of sun readers couldn't give a about hillsborough and so we shouldn't get so uptight about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 His grandfather was an Aberdonian minister I understand. The fact is we cannot stop them coming out for Yes and it would be self defeating to be churlish about it now if they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Whatever the Sun do they are well beyond being a day late and a dollar short. They will just be 'latching on' not 'making the difference'. Edited September 14, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 His grandfather was an Aberdonian minister I understand. The fact is we cannot stop them coming out for Yes and it would be self defeating to be churlish about it now if they do. Yep,he's eligible for citizenship of an independent Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Yes would gain more TES votes by making a statement telling the Scottish folk that he is a scumbag and give reasons why. In an ideal world I'd agree but the simple fact of the matter is there are significant numbers of people who buy that and of those a number will be swayed by what they read in their daily newspaper. I don't think the same applies for broadsheets to any significance because they have a smaller readership and their readers are more likely to have already made up their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Murdoch tweeting lots this morning. Thus far it seems to be observational statements but it may be heading somewhere. My guess is hes going to say more powers is plenty as a shot across the bows of Westminster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 May I just say do not read the SUN. But remember back in 1997 when they came out to support Blair and he went on to win. This is a massive boost if true and believe me other papers will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Murdoch will be using his threat of supporting us to extort something from Westminster. If they agree he will remain quiet if they don't comply he will go Yes. This is what he does, he promises to back you if you promise to do his bidding. His bidding of course is something he has sold to the highest bidder somewhere else and so on it goes. Having him as kingmaker in the UK is insane. They had a chance to sort this after the hacking scandal but they let him off (again a deal will have been made). He is a basically. Edited September 14, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Murdoch will be using his threat of supporting us to extort something from Westminster. If they agree he will remain quiet if they don't comply he will go Yes. This is what he does, he promises to back you if you promise to do his bidding. His bidding of course is something he has sold to the highest bidder somewhere else and so on it goes. Having him as kingmaker in the UK is insane. They had a chance to sort this after the hacking scandal but they let him off (again a deal will have been made). He is a basically. I see your point totally. But reiterate the man and woman on the street get there information from in general the red tops. Surely you can see this a massive boost . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I see your point totally. But reiterate the man and woman on the street get there information from in general the red tops. Surely you can see this a massive boost . Has it happened already? Like I say I am not going to reject anyone who comes to a Yes, that would be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Has it happened already? Like I say I am not going to reject anyone who comes to a Yes, that would be stupid. As I said if it happens its a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I dispise murdoch and the output put off his companies. But compare that to BP s environmental record, asda treating of farmers, RBS/HBOS sending the UK debt through the roof after a bail out, BBC cover up of child abuse by its stars and payouts to It's mates, BAE egging on wars for a profit. Etc etc Ild take an influential, questionable backer in murdoch v the amoral shower of supporters on the No side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Is the SNP's first victory in 2007 the only time Rupert has failed to back the winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I am on topic. Yes I do and I think it will have an impact on left wingers who are backing the Yes campaign. It could have a negative impact. I can't see many lefties being swaye dby the Sun's backing. "Ah , the Suns backing Yes, I'll away to No with the Daily Mail and the Telegraph". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Looks like Dave caved to whatever he wanted... "Rupert Murdoch: I'm worried about Salmond's extreme allies...but I'm still not officially saying Yes or No" Bawbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I found this on Twitter, apparently from today's edition of the Scottish Sun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Oor Wullie and The Broons on board with the No Campaign. Get it up ye Rupert. http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/scotland/independence-referendum/together-we-can-build-a-fairer-stronger-scotland-1.574981 The front of the Sunday Post is like something from the 1950s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I found this on Twitter, apparently from today's edition of the Scottish Sun: Wow! starting to get a little bit uncomfortable about all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Why not always going to end this way.. Time to stand up. I been sorely surprised by the amount of people thinking it is going to be a fair game.. They got to much to lose.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 According to the Herald Murdoch's worried about Salmond's "extreme allies" http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/murdoch-media-tycoon-worried-about-salmonds-extreme-alliesbut-still-not-tak.1410692525 Anyone told him about the other side!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Murdoch may remain evens. Tweets don't indicate much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The front of the Sunday Post is like something from the 1950s.... C'mon wee Scottie, dance tae oor tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 C'mon wee Scottie, dance tae oor tune The Sunday Post. The newspaper of choice for Uncle McToms everywhere.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 As in Monday edition front cover? I detest the Sun but we could use a tabloid in the last four days just to beat down some of the lies. TT I don't know if they are going front cover but the boy said Monday they are coming out.He's a journalist though so he might have been telling fibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 He's tweeting now. Looking more no. Saying snp too left and green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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