macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 watched them a lot over the last 2 years and so much is made about Bale but they are a solid side and play some great football. They have a lot of footballers who can actually pass the ball and are comfortable on the ball. I think they could surprise a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 They are a decent side - totally dominating against Israel so far. Where Bale is an asset is games like Thursday when it may have ended 0-0. Good luck to them next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radian_13 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I agree with. Ashley Williams is solid. Ramsay got quality in CM. Bale does carry them but so what imo. Ronaldo carries Portugal. That's what World class players do, i'm jealous we don't have any!! N Ireland have shown what can be done as they have very similar squad to us!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Cant stand the bastirds, cmon Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Cant stand the bastirds, cmon Israel. I feel the same. If it wasn't solely for English football they wouldn't be even close to doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Not interested couldnae gie a rats erse if they qualify or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 I feel the same. If it wasn't solely for English football they wouldn't be even close to doing anything. How so?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 How so?? The money that is spent in English football on youth development is what produces these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 How so?? Allows Cardiff and Swansea to develop players much easier by playing in the English league. They really should play in the Welsh league - or have a joint English and Welsh national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The money that Cardiff, Swansea and whatever other teams they have playing in England. Welsh clubs just seem to be a leech on Englands back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Allows Cardiff and Swansea to develop players much easier by playing in the English league. They really should play in the Welsh league - or have a joint English and Welsh national team. Imagine how good we will be when Celtic and Rangers make the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 The money that is spent in English football on youth development is what produces these players. How many have come through said clubs systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 How many have come through said clubs systems? The squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 The squad. Really? The whole squad? What's our excuse? Loads of Scots go through English/Welsh clubs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Dont think there will be any of their squad who came through and a Welsh league clubs side. Same could be said about ROI and NI but to a lesser extent. A few of the NI players started out in the Irish League, Mcginn, McAuley for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Really? The whole squad? What's our excuse? Loads of Scots go through English/Welsh clubs . Vast majority of ours go through Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart_lynch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Gareth Bale has scored 6 of their 9 goals. Counting the games in which he has scored the winner, he has won 9 points for them in qualifying so far. Doubt they would be qualifying without him. Edited September 6, 2015 by braveheart_lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Vast majority of ours go through Scotland. Vast majority of our Current players but loads go through systems with English clubs. If your argument is to stand up we must have an application issue with these lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Vast majority of our Current players but loads go through systems with English clubs. If your argument is to stand up we must have an application issue with these lads. Surely my point stands? The vast amount of Scotland players currently have been produced in Scotland. Wales three biggest clubs take their wealth from England. They would be nothing without the English FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Out of our starting 11 from Friday only Martin, Anya and Morrison were not products of Scottish league teams. Plenty of that Welsh squad came through the ranks of Swansea and Cardiff but again they are Welsh clubs benefiting from another countires youth system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Surely my point stands? The vast amount of Scotland players currently have been produced in Scotland. Wales three biggest clubs take their wealth from England. They would be nothing without the English FA. Granted but why are the players, and there are many, why go south at an early age, doing all for us? It's pretty embarrassing how our boys seem to stall as youths isn't it. Not having a pop, just beggars the question. As folk have said in the aftermath we are so far behind the like of Holland, Iceland, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark and hell even Norway it is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Imagine how good we will be when Celtic and Rangers make the move. Like England would ever want them down there with the bile that goes with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Players in bold were developed entirely or mostly in the country they represent... Wales Squad - Developed at: Owain Fôn Williams - Crewe Wayne Hennessey - Man City/Wolves Danny Ward - Wrexham James Collins - Cardiff Ben Davies - Swansea Morgan Fox - Charlton Chris Gunter - Cardiff Adam Henley - Blackburn Jazz Richards - Cardiff/Swansea Neil Taylor - Man City/Wrexham Ashley Williams - Tamworth/West Brom David Edwards - Shrewsbury Andy King - Chelsea/Leicester Shaun MacDonald - Swansea Aaron Ramsey - Cardiff David Vaughan - Crewe Jordan Williams - Wrexham/Liverpool Gareth Bale - Southampton Simon Church - Wycombe/Reading David Cotterill - Bristol City Tom Lawrence - Everton/Man Utd Hal Robson-Kanu - Arsenal/Reading Sam Vokes - Bourenmouth Scotland Squad - Developed at: David Marshall - Celtic Craig Gordon - Hearts Allan McGregor - Rangers Alan Hutton - Rangers Andrew Robertson - Celtic/Queens Park Russell Martin - Brighton Charlie Mulgrew - Celtic Steven Whittaker - Hibs Gordon Greer - Clyde Grant Hanley - QotS/Crewe/Rangers/Blackburn Shaun Maloney - Celtic James Morrison - Middlesbrough Scott Brown - Hibs Ikechi Anya - Oxford/Wycombe Matt Ritchie - Portsmouth James McArthur - Hamilton James Forrest - Celtic Johnny Russell - Dundee Utd Darren Fletcher - Man Utd Steven Fletcher - Hibs Steven Naismith - Rangers/Kilmarnock Leigh Griffiths - Hibs/Falkirk Chris Martin - Norwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart_lynch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 So with the fact that Wrexham, Swansea and Cardiff all play in England, none of them were developed at a Welsh club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 So with the fact that Wrexham, Swansea and Cardiff all play in England, none of them were developed at a Welsh club. I was being kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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