Auld_Reekie Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Tactical voting has feck all to do with anything. Ill be voting Green's in the regional list as I want more Green MSPs in parliament, even at the expense of SNP MSPs. Guys like Andy Wightman would be great addition to the parliament. IMO, the SNP have to up their game. Handing them another majority, never mind a bigger one, will harm the independence cause to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 No UKIP would make me happy. I hope I'm not wrong but I can't see that they've got a cat in hell's chance. They picked up 140000 votes in the European elections and only 47000 in the General election. Different elections and different voting methods but I think that the publicity they got in Scotland in the General Election has shown them up to the electorate for what they are. I suspect that a lot of the people who voted for them in 2014 had never heard of David Coburn let alone seen him in action. No chance whatsoever of them winning in any constituencies and even on the left, I would imagine that people who might be minded to give them a "second" vote would be more likely to give that to one of the other Unionist parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 It's an internal matter for members so hasn't been advertised, it is in the public domain due to some members voicing their opinion on it so I don't think I'll be murdered in the dead of night for telling folk about it . Info in the link below. http://tommyballgovan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/why-ssp-members-should-vote-against.html I've no idea how the vote will go, definitely out of the loop . The members who I've spoken out against it are the "Old Guard", I like Tommy Ball, he speaks out against Colin Fox's moronic rhetoric, but he's been around long enough not to get turfed out for it. . I'm agree with Tommy in this instance, caution always caution. Thanks for that. I follow Tommy on Twitter and he's usually good form, although not always when he tweets about football (he's a Celtic fan very much of the paranoid, 'it's all a conspiracy' variety). I can see his logic here though. It would be foolish for the SSP to vote itself out of existence to link up with a group who seem to be very much at the nascent stage, especially with an election to be fought next year. The SSP do look in dire need of a reboot but I think there probably needs to be more discussion about how this proposed new entity might look, how it is going to be structured and what its actual aims and policies might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I hope I'm not wrong but I can't see that they've got a cat in hell's chance. They picked up 140000 votes in the European elections and only 47000 in the General election. Different elections and different voting methods but I think that the publicity they got in Scotland in the General Election has shown them up to the electorate for what they are. I suspect that a lot of the people who voted for them in 2014 had never heard of David Coburn let alone seen him in action. No chance whatsoever of them winning in any constituencies and even on the left, I would imagine that people who might be minded to give them a "second" vote would be more likely to give that to one of the other Unionist parties. UKIP are essentially an anti-EU and anti- immigration party. That's their USP. Since the Scottish parliament's has no control over either area, I can't see them securing too many votes next year either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 When Salmond did that, wasn't it to put them at the top of the ballot paper, alphabetically? Maybe they should put the "Almighty Nicola Sturgeon for First Minister" - that'll put the SNP at the top of the ballot paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Maybe they should put the "Almighty Nicola Sturgeon for First Minister" - that'll put the SNP at the top of the ballot paper. Angelic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Thanks for that. I follow Tommy on Twitter and he's usually good form, although not always when he tweets about football (he's a Celtic fan very much of the paranoid, 'it's all a conspiracy' variety). I can see his logic here though. It would be foolish for the SSP to vote itself out of existence to link up with a group who seem to be very much at the nascent stage, especially with an election to be fought next year. The SSP do look in dire need of a reboot but I think there probably needs to be more discussion about how this proposed new entity might look, how it is going to be structured and what its actual aims and policies might be. Don't get him started on the Offensive Behaviour bill ... Actually, do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one t in scotland Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Maybe they should put the "Almighty Nicola Sturgeon for First Minister" - that'll put the SNP at the top of the ballot paper.Aardvarks for Independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Angel Ayes Nicola Party? Although that sounds a bit like an escort agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Don't get him started on the Offensive Behaviour bill ... Actually, do! I've considered it once or twice but I never had the nerve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I've considered it once or twice but I never had the nerve! DO IT NOW!!! he's all riled up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 DO IT NOW!!! he's all riled up! Don't tell me Celtic didn't get awarded a throw-in in the opposition's half again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Don't tell me Celtic didn't get awarded a throw-in in the opposition's half again? Worse. He's been watching The Rangers, comrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Worse. He's been watching The Rangers, arsepiece. Just seen it. Suddenly I feel nostalgic for the days when EK and PGB were in their pomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Just seen it. :lol:Suddenly I feel nostalgic for the days when EK and PGB were in their pomp. Comrade PGB's still on form on Facebook EK will be back... Assuming The Rangers don't come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Wtf' s this arsepiece pish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 EK will be back... Assuming The Rangers don't come up. He's here somewhere, guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Honey pot = a r s e p is CE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Wtf' s this honeypot pish? Type C0MRADE and it comes out as ARESPIECE. For some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Type C0MRADE and it comes out as ARESPIECE. For some reason. And then when you quote someone who has said it it changes to Honeypot.... The mods are really going out their way to make me feel unwelcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) And then when you quote someone who has said it it changes to Honeypot.... The mods are really going out their way to make me feel unwelcome Yes, I suspected cyberbullying when I innocently included 'com_rade' in a post yesterday . Edited May 21, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yes, I suspected cyberbullying when I innocently included 'com_rade' in a post yesterday . You've been in the KGB nick in Vilnius. A tad worse than cyberbulling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Thanks for that. I follow Tommy on Twitter and he's usually good form, although not always when he tweets about football (he's a Celtic fan very much of the paranoid, 'it's all a conspiracy' variety). I can see his logic here though. It would be foolish for the SSP to vote itself out of existence to link up with a group who seem to be very much at the nascent stage, especially with an election to be fought next year. The SSP do look in dire need of a reboot but I think there probably needs to be more discussion about how this proposed new entity might look, how it is going to be structured and what its actual aims and policies might be. Going by Twitter, the SSP have voted to enter into open talks with the Scottish Left Project. Looks like they are still taking the cautious approach without closing the door on the SLP completely, which is sensible. I guess it is now a case of 'watch this space'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Saint Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Sorry, I have researched and I am still unclear. Is this correct? Is it better for me to vote for another indy supporting party in my list vote than voting twice for SNP? #cannaegetmyheidrouindit http://blog.independencelive.net/dont-be-mean-in-se16/ Edited May 25, 2015 by Capital Saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Sorry, I have researched and I am still unclear. Is this correct? Is it better for me to vote for another indy supporting party in my list vote than voting twice for SNP? #cannaegetmyheidrouindit http://blog.independencelive.net/dont-be-mean-in-se16/ I think the difference in 2016 will be that the SNP will win most, if not all, the constituency seats. This will change the parameters of the list vote, making it less of a necessity to keep Sturgeon as FM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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