killiefaetheferry Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Probably so Killie and point taken Right, now that's sorted, when are we stripping these titles off the cheating zombies then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinetartan Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Right, now that's sorted, when are we stripping these titles off the cheating zombies then ?haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Right, now that's sorted, when are we stripping these titles off the cheating zombies then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Right, now that's sorted, when are we stripping these titles off the cheating zombies then ?If they're zombies then they're not the same club.This is one of the funniest things about this whole issue. The amount of folk who say that it's 2 different teams but want the"zombies " stripped of titles that they claim weren't even won by them in the first place. You really couldn't make this stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If they're zombies then they're not the same club. This is one of the funniest things about this whole issue. The amount of folk who say that it's 2 different teams but want the"zombies " stripped of titles that they claim weren't even won by them in the first place. You really couldn't make this stuff up. This issue seems to confuse your chairman too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If they're zombies then they're not the same club. This is one of the funniest things about this whole issue. The amount of folk who say that it's 2 different teams but want the"zombies " stripped of titles that they claim weren't even won by them in the first place. You really couldn't make this stuff up. Sorry regarding any lack of logic, was only trying for comedic nonsense having been so serious in my last post or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Sorry regarding any lack of logic, was only trying for comedic nonsense having been so serious in my last post or two. No problem, I was trying to be a smart arse and funny at the same time and failed.It wasn't aimed at you anyway. I was having an opportunistic dig at folk like Ek_celt who twist their logic depending on the point they are aiming for. You can't have yourcake and eat it, unless Schroedinger was the Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 No problem, I was trying to be a smart arse and funny at the same time and failed. It wasn't aimed at you anyway. I was having an opportunistic dig at folk like Ek_celt who twist their logic depending on the point they are aiming for. You can't have yourcake and eat it, unless Schroedinger was the Baker. I know, you are absolutely right. Its a bit like wanting the history and titles of the old club but not the debt. Its crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I know, you are absolutely right. Its a bit like wanting the history and titles of the old club but not the debt. Its crazy... Touché! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I know, you are absolutely right. Its a bit like wanting the history and titles of the old club but not the debt. Its crazy...How dare you use logic and reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) How dare you use logic and reason. Just me trying to be a smart arse and funny now!? Edited November 15, 2015 by ShedTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If they're zombies then they're not the same club. This is one of the funniest things about this whole issue. The amount of folk who say that it's 2 different teams but want the"zombies " stripped of titles that they claim weren't even won by them in the first place. You really couldn't make this stuff up. It's even confused you, if they're not the same club, they wouldn't have the titles, they'd belong to the old club. I actually agree with the point I presume you were trying to make though. The other side still dislike the club, and want you to keep Manchester, sectarian signing/singing policies, Tore Andre flo and Nino capucho but not the titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 No problem, I was trying to be a smart arse and funny at the same time and failed. It wasn't aimed at you anyway. I was having an opportunistic dig at folk like Ek_celt who twist their logic depending on the point they are aiming for. You can't have yourcake and eat it, unless Schroedinger was the Baker. I've been consistent about it for, well, forever. Rangers died in 2012 and the club calling themselves Rangers today are a new club. The Schroedinger episode was an example of Rangers fans believing they could be considered both dead and alive depending on what you were trying to believe at the time. ie Debt = dead. Trophies = alive. Fine = dead, monies owed to RFC = alive, etcetera, etcetera...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I've been consistent about it for, well, forever. Rangers died in 2012 and the club calling themselves Rangers today are a new club. The Schroedinger episode was an example of Rangers fans believing they could be considered both dead and alive depending on what you were trying to believe at the time. ie Debt = dead. Trophies = alive. Fine = dead, monies owed to RFC = alive, etcetera, etcetera...... *Schrödinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's even confused you, if they're not the same club, they wouldn't have the titles, they'd belong to the old club. I actually agree with the point I presume you were trying to make though. The other side still dislike the club, and want you to keep Manchester, sectarian signing/singing policies, Tore Andre flo and Nino capucho but not the titles. A football club is like a restaurant. It wins awards. The award is to the restaurant or the football club, not the company. If a new company buys the restaurant business, the restaurant still has the awards despite the change in ownership. It's part of the goodwill of the business and factored into the purchase price. A business doesn't incur liabilities - it is the company that owns it that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 *Schrödinger Ah, so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 A football club is like a restaurant. It wins awards. The award is to the restaurant or the football club, not the company. If a new company buys the restaurant business, the restaurant still has the awards despite the change in ownership. It's part of the goodwill of the business and factored into the purchase price. A business doesn't incur liabilities - it is the company that owns it that does. If it's an incorporated company then the restaurant has become the company. If that company then gets liquidated then the restaurant business does too. If the administrators sell the building, the tables, and the chairs the buyer can start a new restaurant. If they copy the menu of the old restaurant they will probably keep the same customers. But they're still a new restaurant. If Michelin then come along and say "hold on, they're not your stars" then yer ####ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 If it's an incorporated company then the restaurant has become the company. If that company then gets liquidated then the restaurant business does too. If the administrators sell the building, the tables, and the chairs the buyer can start a new restaurant. If they copy the menu of the old restaurant they will probably keep the same customers. But they're still a new restaurant. If Michelin then come along and say "hold on, they're not your stars" then yer ######ed.No it hasn't. If the restaurant has become the company, how are people able to buy and sell businesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinetartan Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Where is this restaurant I'm starving on nightshift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 *SchrödingerI was going from memory, not Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Schroedinger is fine - if the user doesn't have access to a German keyboard it's accepted practice (by the Goethe-Institut) to substitute the umlauted letter with '_e' - e.g. Göring / Goering. Edited November 16, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Schroedinger is fine - if the user doesn't have access to a German keyboard it's accepted practice (by the Goethe-Institut) to substitute the umlauted letter with '_e' - e.g. Göring / Goering.Thanks Charlie. I could probably have found the German characters but I'm on my phone and quite frankly can't be arsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Is it okay to post in here now Debian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Is it okay to post in here now Debian? Too early ... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 No it hasn't. If the restaurant has become the company, how are people able to buy and sell businesses? Not every business is a plc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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