Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Craig - I suggest you have a look a what led to Poland's second goal. Fine but remember goals last night Robertson and Brown were culpable. Do you want them drummed out of the side as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanovic Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 He's nowhere near international standard. Boy behind me summed it up last night 'He's no a right back..but then again he's no a right mid either.. maybe we should play him upfront, he can't do any harm there' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Fine but remember goals last night Robertson and Brown were culpable. Do you want them drummed out of the side as well? I didn't say I wanted anyone drummed out of the side - that's for WGS to decide and not me. My point was about you stating that Whittaker never let us down v Poland - in fact he fluffed a pretty standard clearance which let directly to Poland's second goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I didn't say I wanted anyone drummed out of the side - that's for WGS to decide and not me. My point was about you stating that Whittaker never let us down v Poland - in fact he fluffed a pretty standard clearance which let directly to Poland's second goal. Just remember Whittaker is second or perhaps even third choice right-back for us. To expect totally flawless stuff from one so far down pecking order for a nation as small is Scotland is a tad unrealistic don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 He's nowhere near international standard. Boy behind me summed it up last night 'He's no a right back..but then again he's no a right mid either.. maybe we should play him upfront, he can't do any harm there' He's played in our last two competitive matches where we have picked up four points so I can't see how that is possible if he isn't up to international standard. Sure he will toil against top nations but many of our team would. Things have improved immeasurably under Strachan but last night shows we still need to strengthen our squad and increase skill levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Just remember Whittaker is second or perhaps even third choice right-back for us. To expect totally flawless stuff from one so far down pecking order for a nation as small is Scotland is a tad unrealistic don't you think? For someone who has been a regular starter over the last couple of years at either RB or LB, my view is he's a liability more than an asset at international level. If you have a different view, then I totally respect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 For someone who has been a regular starter over the last couple of years at either RB or LB, my view is he's a liability more than an asset at international level. If you have a different view, then I totally respect it. Well it happens to be Strachan's view and that is good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Well it happens to be Strachan's view and that is good enough for me. Which is exactly what I alluded to in a previous post - it's for WGS to decide and not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Which is exactly what I alluded to in a previous post - it's for WGS to decide and not me. Precisely. And who exactly would have played instead last night? Paterson? That is my point here. Whether he is a liability or not he is a better liability than others who would more likely be even greater liabilities. It is clear we don't have great quality in depth at all areas in our squad (apart from perhaps goalkeeper and central midfield) so we have to make do with the lesser of evils with players out injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanovic Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Caledonian Craig, my bad - I'll not bother posting an opinion in the future unless it's held by our esteemed manager (who I love btw) Whittaker is pish. Just because we picked up points doesn't mean he isn't, just like loosing last night isn't simply down to him - he just played a big part in it and is a liability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Caledonian Craig, my bad - I'll not bother posting an opinion in the future unless it's held by our esteemed manager (who I love btw) Whittaker is pish. Just because we picked up points doesn't mean he isn't, just like loosing last night isn't simply down to him - he just played a big part in it and is a liability I do recall he saved us a goal last night though in the first half. Can't remember I think it was Rooney who waltzed his way into our area but Whittaker came across and ran ball out for a goal-kick so wan't all bad. Kind of sums him up - some good and some bad and be honest we have a few players like that so still seems Whittaker is being made a scapegoat here. If you can come up with a less pish third choice right-back option for us with experience then I am all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I do recall he saved us a goal last night though in the first half. . Which he also did in the Poland match. No-one is saying he's a brilliant player, but to call him a liability and a balloon isn't fair to the guy, and the fact he can play either flank makes him a valued squad member to me. Scottish too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not a particular fan of him, but to fair he's done ok when called up recently. There have been better and worse performances by his recent teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usainboltyarocket Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Robertson apart none of the starting 11 covered themselves in any glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianp Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If we had Hutton in against the Irish on Friday we would have been run over down that flank.....he cannot defend BUT Whittaker did defend and got forward quite a bit, Hutton gets away with murder, maybe because he can't be blamed for bad defending because he doesn't defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Robertson apart none of the starting 11 covered themselves in any glory. Robertson covered himself in glory with a goal. That apart he was as much to blame as everyone. Not a good performance by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Double post Edited November 19, 2014 by Paulo2576 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Unfortunately one of the joys of watching Scotland is that our players make individual errors pretty much every game. Some are punished. Some aren't. As some have said Whittaker, while from perfect is a back up fullback and a decent one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanovic Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 he can play either flank News to me! I understand we are short on the options, and imagine WGS must be scrambling looking for alternatives as right now we are fab in midfield - but struggle when really tested in defence and, as is becoming apparent, in need of some fresh ideas up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 News to me! I understand we are short on the options, and imagine WGS must be scrambling looking for alternatives as right now we are fab in midfield - but struggle when really tested in defence and, as is becoming apparent, in need of some fresh ideas up front. Touched on this on another thread, but these are statements I'm always reading about our team. The players to improve on Whittaker (as a back up full back) and Fletcher aren't there. Although I do think Strachan is wrong about C Martin and we have better options than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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