GLOSTA Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Based on today's updated SSC points table, the stadium capacities published by UEFA, and UEFA normal practice of 17% ticket allocation for each competing nation... this is my estimate of who gets guaranteed a ticket, should all choose to apply for all group games. Of course, the 17% may only be approximate according to stadium layout, segregation etc. All of course subject to change based on attendance at next 2 games and when SSC decide to cut off eligibility. Anyone with 12 points is guaranteed ( for all stadiums (except a 100 shortfall in Leipzig). Happy to have my methodology improved and any errors corrected of course. Demonstrating my excitement by spreadsheet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardie10 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 believe the typical UEFA allocation has been 16% not 17%, reduces the allocations slightly but based on current table 12 points would still be enough for all venues bar Leipzig (increased shortfall of 525) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTA Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Nice work. Brutal that actual supports get only 32% or so of staduim. What's the rest if the breakdown for general sale and no doubt massive amount for sponsors and hospitality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOSTA Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, chardie10 said: believe the typical UEFA allocation has been 16% not 17%, reduces the allocations slightly but based on current table 12 points would still be enough for all venues bar Leipzig (increased shortfall of 525) You are right... I keep getting that wrong... on another post a few months back I had it at 15% - seems I cant get the number 16 into my head!!! Edited October 23, 2023 by GLOSTA image added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOSTA Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Updated to correct my error - thanks to @chardie10 for the quality assurance peer review. Edited October 23, 2023 by GLOSTA image error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRoy Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Worth remembering that 12 points is effectively 2 campaigns and 2 Memberships meaning you'd never have had to travel abroad. With the first week also being 1-2 before some schools finish, I'd fully anticipate (should people only apply for what they can) that 6-7 points will get you a brief. Edited October 23, 2023 by LoganRoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOSTA Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, LoganRoy said: Worth remembering that 12 points is effectively 2 campaigns and 2 Memberships meaning you'd never have had to travel abroad. With the first week also being 1-2 before soke schools finish, I'd fully anticipate (should people only apply for what they can) that 6-7 points will get you a brief. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, LoganRoy said: Worth remembering that 12 points is effectively 2 campaigns and 2 Memberships meaning you'd never have had to travel abroad. With the first week also being 1-2 before some schools finish, I'd fully anticipate (should people only apply for what they can) that 6-7 points will get you a brief. Going by the table, for it to drop as low as 6 or 7 points you're needing over 10,000 high pointers to not take up tickets for the Euros. I can't see the school term time influencing sales that much. Edited October 24, 2023 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTA Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Can only see it going down to 10 points if that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broath Boy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Going by the above posts, I take it that (me 13 points) would be able to get a ticket for each game and not a single ticket for 1 game only, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlish Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 A question about the ballot.... I have applied for 3 tickets for a lot of matches. Are you only successful if 3 tickets are allocated, or could they just allocate 1 ticket out of 3 requested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fae Hamilton Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 Points, would have been on 11 if I had got an AWAY ticket for Cyprus or France )-: Nice graphic though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Broath Boy said: Going by the above posts, I take it that (me 13 points) would be able to get a ticket for each game and not a single ticket for 1 game only, cheers. I don't understand the question? If you have enough points, and you only want to go to one game, you will be able to pick which game you want. Bear in mind that there will be a few games to be added to the list. Georgia, Norway and probably/possibly a couple of March friendlies before the cut off point. So there will be room for a bit of movement in the above table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Broath Boy said: Going by the above posts, I take it that (me 13 points) would be able to get a ticket for each game and not a single ticket for 1 game only, cheers. If they follow the precedent they set for EURO2020, you would be entitled to a ticket for each game. The points tally basically treats each game individually and starts top down as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, stirlish said: A question about the ballot.... I have applied for 3 tickets for a lot of matches. Are you only successful if 3 tickets are allocated, or could they just allocate 1 ticket out of 3 requested? I think for any successful allocations you get from then UEFA ballot that you get the number of tickets that you requested for the game. Word of warning - I’m not sure if you have SSC points to qualify for tix? - but if you end up with tickets for another game that’s the day of a Scotland game, it will block you from then being able to get Scotland tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broath Boy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I don't understand the question? If you have enough points, and you only want to go to one game, you will be able to pick which game you want. Bear in mind that there will be a few games to be added to the list. Georgia, Norway and probably/possibly a couple of March friendlies before the cut off point. So there will be room for a bit of movement in the above table. So, basically saying will 13 points get a ticket for all 3 matches (my wording is crap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundsKeeper Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) The issue we have is that IF the SFA get 16% of the stadiums, the SSC will not necessarily get 16%. They don't have to tell us how many tickets they require. Could be as much as 10% going to the SSC , we don't know. Would be great if all 12 point got tickets and I don't want to be a party pooper but I would be very suprised of that was the case. Again its just my opinion. Edited October 24, 2023 by GroundsKeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled ICT Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Do we know when the cut-off is likely to be? I'm guessing after the March games which would bump me to 11 points (assuming we have a home game in March) which might be just under the required number. Circumstances dictate I am unlikely to get an away game in, if there were any, before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, GroundsKeeper said: The issue we have is that IF the SFA get 16% of the stadiums, the SSC will not necessarily get 16%. They don't have to tell us how many tickets they require. Could be as much as 10% going to the SSC , we don't know. Would be great if all 12 point got tickets and I don't want to be a party pooper but I would be very suprised of that was the case. Again its just my opinion. If there were anyone keeping a keen eye on our euro2020 allocations, it would tell you how many of the 16% went to SSC allocations for Hampden and Wembley. I think both were operating at 25%, so would be stadium capacity * 0.25 and then 16% of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Exiled ICT said: Do we know when the cut-off is likely to be? I'm guessing after the March games which would bump me to 11 points (assuming we have a home game in March) which might be just under the required number. Circumstances dictate I am unlikely to get an away game in, if there were any, before then. I think people expect tickets to be sold before then. Meaning cut off will be after the Nov fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Broath Boy said: So, basically saying will 13 points get a ticket for all 3 matches (my wording is crap). Yes, probably. But bear in mind we are kinda guessing based on what has happened in the past. But I think you should be OK for all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Exiled ICT said: Do we know when the cut-off is likely to be? I'm guessing after the March games which would bump me to 11 points (assuming we have a home game in March) which might be just under the required number. Circumstances dictate I am unlikely to get an away game in, if there were any, before then. I think it's hard to say whether the March games will be included or not. It depends on how quickly UEFA want to get their mitts on our money, which is normally as quick as possible. 🤣 They might want to get all those tickets sold before March? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundsKeeper Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I think it's hard to say whether the March games will be included or not. It depends on how quickly UEFA want to get their mitts on our money, which is normally as quick as possible. 🤣 They might want to get all those tickets sold before March? My understanding is the last opportunity to get SSC points will be the Georgia / Norway games. Uefa will want your money asap and the germany tickets will be released well before March. Possibly as soon as christmas, what a present to get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Another thing to consider is that the table above is based on normal official capacities. For big tournaments a big chunk of the stadium is handed over for TV and media coverage, which will reduce the actual available capacity a bit. Which is a nonsense with today's technology. There is no need for all these commentators/pundits to be in the stadium. It's not like they are even watching the game a lot of the time, they are too busy talking about England even when they are not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, GroundsKeeper said: My understanding is the last opportunity to get SSC points will be the Georgia / Norway games. Uefa will want your money asap and the germany tickets will be released well before March. Possibly as soon as christmas, what a present to get! I think you are probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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