phart Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Here's several academic refutations of the source used in Ally's article above Graeme Wood. https://www.salon.com/2015/02/20/this_stupidity_needs_to_end_why_the_atlantic_ny_post_are_clueless_about_islam/ by Dr H A Helyer http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/islamic-state-mystery-anti-history-historic-phenomenon-1583179932 Dr. Ramzy Baroud Here's a scottish independence blog run by an academic talking about it too, just for some congnitive dissonance. https://inthepublicsphere.wordpress.com/2015/02/22/why-graham-woods-isis-article-needs-correcting/ More criticism https://thinkprogress.org/what-the-atlantic-left-out-about-isis-according-to-their-own-expert-afd98cf1c134/ https://www.salon.com/2015/02/19/the_atlantics_big_islam_lie_what_muslims_really_believe_about_isis/ Meanwhile my assertions are from the guy who helps inform policy for the UN security council and US government. I'm mental though Edited December 28, 2017 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 hours ago, mariokempes56 said: You planning to be here long Kimba ? I'll be around.  Just wanted to get the gospel of grace out to you.  Don't worry Donny won't have to come out of retirement  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 To phart and Allly Bonga, take heed Colossians 2:8King James Version (KJV) 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. The philosophers all worshipped the gods of mythology.  Same thing today which is why our days are named after the sun, moon and false gods, and also the planets.  Plato whose blueprint for a new world order was a worshipper of gods and goddesses.  At the beginning of the book The Republic, Plato is praying to a goddess - just like the Bible says people will do.  Please understand, there is only ONE God - the God of Israel, the Lord Jesus Christ.     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, Kimba said: To phart and Allly Bonga, take heed Colossians 2:8King James Version (KJV) 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. The philosophers all worshipped the gods of mythology.  Same thing today which is why our days are named after the sun, moon and false gods, and also the planets.  Plato whose blueprint for a new world order was a worshipper of gods and goddesses.  At the beginning of the book The Republic, Plato is praying to a goddess - just like the Bible says people will do.  Please understand, there is only ONE God - the God of Israel, the Lord Jesus Christ.     What about this?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Interesting that Sam Harris advocates Buddhism then.... not such an atheist after all.  Let's be clear, false worship is REBELLION against the true God.  A lot of this is propagated through secret societies, such as Freemasonry (all controlled by the Society of Jesus - aka the Roman Catholic Church). Here's to those who do their research  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Sam Harris is an initiate, kinda obvious though  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 The pastor I listen to, his name is Rodney Beaulieu of Grace Bible Community Church.  He is awesome and RIGHTLY DIVDES between Israel and the body of Christ as we are commanded to do in 2 Timothy 2:15 Here is his channel on FB  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Sam Harris is a knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I find the Tamb much more interesting when phart is around. Keep up the good work, sir. I think I have the current score at about Harris 1, Atran 8. I am fairly confident there will be no big come back in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Kimba said: To phart and Allly Bonga, take heed Colossians 2:8King James Version (KJV) 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. The philosophers all worshipped the gods of mythology.  Same thing today which is why our days are named after the sun, moon and false gods, and also the planets.  Plato whose blueprint for a new world order was a worshipper of gods and goddesses.  At the beginning of the book The Republic, Plato is praying to a goddess - just like the Bible says people will do.  Please understand, there is only ONE God - the God of Israel, the Lord Jesus Christ.     Yer task is complete - return to base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 20 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: Sam Harris is a knob I agree  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 12 hours ago, mariokempes56 said: Yer task is complete - return to base... Thank you sir. As an ambassador for Christ it's my job to get the gospel of grace to you. After that it's your freewill choice to believe or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 https://www.facebook.com/thewholeworldisdeceived/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 22 hours ago, Orraloon said: I find the Tamb much more interesting when phart is around. Keep up the good work, sir. I think I have the current score at about Harris 1, Atran 8. I am fairly confident there will be no big come back in this game. You never noticed then that he succinctly diverted the thread to discredit Harris on his political views inferring that his views on the existance of God were to be ignored ? You never noticed that he never actually took issue with or addressed anything Harris said in the video about the existance of God - which the thread was about ? I suppose i could have posted a video with great talks by Hawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, Dillahunty, Carrier, or Carroll on purely the existance of God but would it have really mattered ? I'm sure the same tactic would have been employed - play the man not the ball - and you have to ask why The ideology behind suicide bombers, Islamic terrorists, actions of the West and the part religion plays deserves a thread of it's own so i wont divert this one any further    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: You never noticed then that he succinctly diverted the thread to discredit Harris on his political views inferring that his views on the existance of God were to be ignored ? You never noticed that he never actually took issue with or addressed anything Harris said in the video about the existance of God - which the thread was about ? I suppose i could have posted a video with great talks by Hawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, Dillahunty, Carrier, or Carroll on purely the existance of God but would it have really mattered ? I'm sure the same tactic would have been employed - play the man not the ball - and you have to ask why The ideology behind suicide bombers, Islamic terrorists, actions of the West and the part religion plays deserves a thread of it's own so i wont divert this one any further    There is no science in the existence of god. It's a pointless discussion, but you can make good money if you pick a side and play to the partisans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 hours ago, phart said: There is no science in the existence of god. It's a pointless discussion, but you can make good money if you pick a side and play to the partisans. 1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.  They're calling it science, and you're trusting in it.  They are initiates that hate the true God because they would rather satisfy their flesh in a TEMPORAL (temporary) world.  Please believe the gospel and you will have the righteousness of Christ imputed to you.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I recommend this: Grace Ambassadors  http://graceambassadors.com/salvation/how-do-i-know-i-am-saved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 And this: Shawn Brasseaux https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.org/2014/12/07/are-lost-people-forgiven/  This explains a heresy going on but its a great explanation of what is happening overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) There is a war, and it is for YOUR SOUL. Â So do research. Â Please do not be complacent when your soul is at stake. Â Ok ? 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is the summarization of the gospel of grace. Â Trust in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Edited December 30, 2017 by Kimba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: You never noticed then that he succinctly diverted the thread to discredit Harris on his political views inferring that his views on the existance of God were to be ignored ? You never noticed that he never actually took issue with or addressed anything Harris said in the video about the existance of God - which the thread was about ? I suppose i could have posted a video with great talks by Hawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, Dillahunty, Carrier, or Carroll on purely the existance of God but would it have really mattered ? I'm sure the same tactic would have been employed - play the man not the ball - and you have to ask why The ideology behind suicide bombers, Islamic terrorists, actions of the West and the part religion plays deserves a thread of it's own so i wont divert this one any further    If ever a thread was in dire need of being sent off on a tangent, then this is it.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 35 minutes ago, Orraloon said: If ever a thread was in dire need of being sent off on a tangent, then this is it. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimba Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) you guys have been brainwashed into another reality...mainly done by the goggle box. aka TV. Â Â Edited December 30, 2017 by Kimba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Kimba said: you guys have been brainwashed into another reality...mainly done by the goggle box. aka TV.   Irony alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We've been brainwashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Kimba said: you guys have been brainwashed into another reality...mainly done by the goggle box. aka TV.   Says the bible basher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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