wellyman Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I am acutely aware of the control that Israel has on Palestine and how that pans out for the people living there yes. Only an Israeli can justify the actions their country takes There is the thorny issue of a good number of Arabs in the whole region who want to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth - a point that many who take the moral high ground seem to forget. Being "acutely aware" is not the same as seeing and breathing the area, I appreciate that the Israeli's have a right to defend themselves against some factions of Arabs but what they do in the West Bank and into Jordon is beyond defence and they know it. Unfortunately waving a few Palestinian flags at Celtic Park is not going to have any effect on the Israeli government as they ignore attempted intervention from countries with far more power than a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 53 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Thanks. If Im worried in future what a fanny on the internet thinks I'll be in touch. Likewise if i'm worried about what kind of flag some saddo has up his front garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 56 minutes ago, wellyman said: Unfortunately waving a few Palestinian flags at Celtic Park is not going to have any effect on the Israeli government as they ignore attempted intervention from countries with far more power than a football club. Even Celtic ? I don't believe it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 On 18/08/2016 at 8:03 AM, Rossy said: (I doubt if any of them could find Palestine on a map anyway). To be fair that gotten harder each year since the 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 15 hours ago, neilly71 said: Thanks but you're not getting the point. I'd like to know what this Catholic / jew thing is exactly. What you have described is not specific to Catholicism. Catholics and Jews have been at odds for literally over a millennia. What specifically would you like to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: It's a bit awkward about Hamas isnt it ? What them being formed by Israel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Israel formed Hamas as a religious counter to the secular groups formed around the PLO. The purpose of this was to weaken the PLO and end the first intifada. Allowed Hamas to form is perhaps a better way to put it. Edited August 19, 2016 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 http://stv.tv/sport/football/1364524-uefa-charge-celtic-over-supporters-palestinian-flag-display/ Imagine that eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: http://stv.tv/sport/football/1364524-uefa-charge-celtic-over-supporters-palestinian-flag-display/ Imagine that eh? I wonder how long it takes them to blame Nicola Sturgeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 44 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: http://stv.tv/sport/football/1364524-uefa-charge-celtic-over-supporters-palestinian-flag-display/ Imagine that eh? And you know what? It was still the right thing to do. Fvck UEFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, phart said: Catholics and Jews have been at odds for literally over a millennia. What specifically would you like to know? What, more than any other Christian sept? Specifically, I'd love to know what the Catholic / Jewish card is that Ormond reckons young ned Celtic supporters are playing ( seeing as you've stuck your neb in, I'd have preferred Ormond to answer but as you've offered) Edited August 19, 2016 by neilly71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 35 minutes ago, neilly71 said: What, more than any other Christian sept? Specifically, I'd love to know what the Catholic / Jewish card is that Ormond reckons young ned Celtic supporters are playing ( seeing as you've stuck your neb in, I'd have preferred Ormond to answer but as you've offered) What exactly is it that you cannot understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I'll give it one more try. Please explain what the Catholic/Jewish card is that is being played by Young neds? While you're at it, please give us a couple of examples of your Celtic supporting pals posts on social media which are pro Catholic/anti Jewish (of which you said you'd seen plenty). Thanks. Edited August 19, 2016 by neilly71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ormond said: What exactly is it that you cannot understand? That Papal Supremacy existed for about 1500 years before the Proddies came along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, neilly71 said: I'll give it one more try. Please explain what the Catholic/Jewish card is that is being played by Young neds? While you're at it, please give us a couple of examples of your Celtic supporting pals posts on social media which are pro Catholic/anti Jewish (of which you said you'd seen plenty). Thanks. Aye, nae bother. I'll post names of my mates up on the TAMB just so you can go hard. You are a walloper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: That Papal Supremacy existed for about 1500 years before the Proddies came along Mmmm, so you're claiming that Catholics more than any other Christian sept have a problem with "the Jews"? Is this something Catholics are born with or have indoctrinated into them at secret anti Jewish meetings at the back of the pineapple? Ormonds a Catholic, wonder how he managed to overcome this phenomenon? Incidentally, why would the fact that Catholicism predates Protestantism have anything to do with it? Are you saying that Catholics have some genetic religious memory built into their system that makes them involuntarily froth at the mouth uncontrollably at the mention of Israel simply because their sept of Christianity is older than Protestantism? Also, are you mental? Edited August 19, 2016 by neilly71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batzek-osemba Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Yeah we will see. UEFA is a non biased, neutral, state of the art & fair organisation which exists for the good of the sports. We-Celtic- will accept their verdict with open arms and dignity. Haha..no..piss take. :-) Edited August 19, 2016 by Batzek-osemba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Ormond said: Aye, nae bother. I'll post names of my mates up on the TAMB just so you can go hard. You are a walloper. I must be to expect any kind of intelligent answer from you. I asked for examples of the pro Catholic/anti Jewish things you claimed your Celtic supporting pals had been saying, of which you said there were plenty. Wasn't expecting their names and addresses tbh but I suspect you know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, neilly71 said: I must be to expect any kind of intelligent answer from you. I asked for examples of the pro Catholic/anti Jewish things you claimed your Celtic supporting pals had been saying, of which you said there were plenty. Wasn't expecting their names and addresses tbh but I suspect you know that. Are you saying you have no idea about the history of conflict between Catholics and Jews? The eejits on my Facebook continously go an about all this pro Catholic pish and in other posts mouth off about Jews at different opportunities. Oh, they have season books in with the Green Brigade. Will that do for you now son? See the part when I said bigoted neds? That didn't count for all in that section. But most guys on here would understand that unlike you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: http://stv.tv/sport/football/1364524-uefa-charge-celtic-over-supporters-palestinian-flag-display/ Imagine that eh? No one cares apart from you. The club will pay a fine and we've highlighted something very important. Fukk uefa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, neilly71 said: What, more than any other Christian sept? Specifically, I'd love to know what the Catholic / Jewish card is that Ormond reckons young ned Celtic supporters are playing ( seeing as you've stuck your neb in, I'd have preferred Ormond to answer but as you've offered) Yeah of course more than other Christian sect's. Some Christian sect's are less than a couple of hundred years old, Catholicism is 1400 years older than the next most adhered to sect. Before means of transportation most sects had no direct contact either. I have no idea what card he is talking to, i thought (mistakenly) we were just discussing the known problems between the proponents of two creation myths. He could just quote the things that make him think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 43 minutes ago, neilly71 said: Mmmm, so you're claiming that Catholics more than any other Christian sept have a problem with "the Jews"? Is this something Catholics are born with or have indoctrinated into them at secret anti Jewish meetings at the back of the pineapple? Ormonds a Catholic, wonder how he managed to overcome this phenomenon? Incidentally, why would the fact that Catholicism predates Protestantism have anything to do with it? Are you saying that Catholics have some genetic religious memory built into their system that makes them involuntarily froth at the mouth uncontrollably at the mention of Israel simply because their sept of Christianity is older than Protestantism? Also, are you mental? Come on man You must be at the wind up noo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Why would Christians have a problem with Jews? They are just a jewish cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 52 minutes ago, Ormond said: Are you saying you have no idea about the history of conflict between Catholics and Jews? The eejits on my Facebook continously go an about all this pro Catholic pish and in other posts mouth off about Jews at different opportunities. Oh, they have season books in with the Green Brigade. Will that do for you now son? See the part when I said bigoted neds? That didn't count for all in that section. But most guys on here would understand that unlike you. Under the guise of catholicvism, armies have had stooshies with protestants and muslims, not sure i know off the top of my head any big stooshies between catholics and Jews, i not saying they didnt happen but, naw, im not aware specifically of any wars, battles. Maybe you could enlighten me? Your claim that there exists some catholic/jew card that glaswegian catholics are playing is, pish of the highest order, youve been asked to explain what this is and have failed to do so, asking questions instead of answering. You said youre pals post plenty pro catholic/anti jewish posts but havent provided any examples. Your premise that there inherently exists in glaswegian catholics some kind of anti semitism is drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 37 minutes ago, phart said: Yeah of course more than other Christian sect's. Some Christian sect's are less than a couple of hundred years old, Catholicism is 1400 years older than the next most adhered to sect. Before means of transportation most sects had no direct contact either. I have no idea what card he is talking to, i thought (mistakenly) we were just discussing the known problems between the proponents of two creation myths. He could just quote the things that make him think that. We are talking about the here and now. The fact that catholicism has existed longer than protestantism is neither here nor there ffs, why would that make the average catholic any more prone to be anti semetic than the average protestant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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