Ex-Whitfield Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Gutted by this poll. Why? I'm not going to say there is poll buggering going on... Cos that would be wrong, but the pollsters themselves have said conceded that they have no idea how to weigh their results and are changing their methods regularly. Internet based polls don't give an accurate reflection as they mainly herd their own panels, I'm not wanting to profile but it's a common conception that polling panels don't provide an accurate view of society as it's a certain sub section who will sign up for panels. Phone based polls don't give an accurate reflection as the contact info is taken from the voting registrar, they don't take into consideration new voters. THEN all data collected is weighted against the 2011 election which had a low turnout. All of the above is just my opinion of course. Two more polls being released tonight. Panelbase and Opinium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 And then consider how the markets shat themselves after just one poll had Yes in front - another one or more doing that again would have them in meltdown They will have enough time for pampers next Friday which is why Gideon has cancelled his trip and is staying home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Why? I'm not going to say there is poll buggering going on... Cos that would be wrong, but the pollsters themselves have said conceded that they have no idea how to weigh their results and are changing their methods regularly. Internet based polls don't give an accurate reflection as they mainly herd their own panels, I'm not wanting to profile but it's a common conception that polling panels don't provide an accurate view of society as it's a certain sub section who will sign up for panels. Phone based polls don't give an accurate reflection as the contact info is taken from the voting registrar, they don't take into consideration new voters. THEN all data collected is weighted against the 2011 election which had a low turnout. All of the above is just my opinion of course. Two more polls being released tonight. Panelbase and Opinium. Your right, I just hate to see a viloent swing. Especially after all the BS vfrom UK gov over last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Ignore the polls, they mean nothing at this stage. It'll come down to who gets their vote out best on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation poll (commissioned by UK Together) has 54% No, 46% Yes. so they commission their own poll and the best they can do is 54% using a company that only use landlines ???? Man they are so fecked........ I canvassed 6 hours in tower blocks and middle class housing in and around Muirhouse today. Not a single NO - not one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Ignore the polls, they mean nothing at this stage. It'll come down to who gets their vote out best on the day. especially when they are not targeting the 300,000 - 400,000 extra voters .... for me this is where we can win this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Rupert Murdoch about to declare support for Yes per Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Rupert Murdoch about to declare support for Yes per Twitter "Considering" being the important word in the auld evil bastards words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Was hoping we would be within 2 points or so, but your right, keep head up and push! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 "Considering" being the important word in the auld evil bastards words.wow its a poison chalice. The man is toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 "Considering" being the important word in the auld evil bastards words. John S Baird - writer & director of Filth has said he has it confirmed And regardless of personal views (mine included) the Sun is the biggest selling paper in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 wow its a poison chalice. The man is toxic. Not as toxic as the union supporting Daily Mail. Or even The Telegraph. I've yet to see anything in The Sun during this referendum that comes close to the anti-Scottish racism spouted on a daily basis by these two rags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 John S Baird - writer & director of Filth has said he has it confirmed And regardless of personal views (mine included) the Sun is the biggest selling paper in Scotland what's its circulation? I imagine it will shift a few labour votes back to No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Not as toxic as the union supporting Daily Mail. Or even The Telegraph. I've yet to see anything in The Sun during this referendum that comes close to the anti-Scottish racism spouted on a daily basis by these two rags. its how it sits with the labour vote. That's what you need to worry about. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 so they commission their own poll and the best they can do is 54% using a company that only use landlines ???? Man they are so fecked........ I canvassed 6 hours in tower blocks and middle class housing in and around Muirhouse today. Not a single NO - not one.... Keep going, the only poll that ultimately matters is on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 what's its circulation? I imagine it will shift a few labour votes back to No. 250,000 - and you wish that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 250,000 - and you wish thatIt will be exploited by BT.Cant see a positive angle for any left winger to be comfortable waving a Sun around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I feel really nervous at the moment. Can't wait for this be over and fingers crossed, yes prevails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It will be exploited by BT.Cant see a positive angle for any left winger to be comfortable waving a Sun around. The positive angle is that a Daily Paper might expose the lies of BT and the Establishment Also its swings and roundabouts - The OO parade today is a major negative for Better Together regardless of however they want to spin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Not as toxic as the union supporting Daily Mail. Or even The Telegraph. I've yet to see anything in The Sun during this referendum that comes close to the anti-Scottish racism spouted on a daily basis by these two rags. Or the guardian. Never really liked its smug, better than thou attitude but it's been a bit of an eye opener how much the guardian fukking hates Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) ... Edited September 13, 2014 by Armchair Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The positive angle is that a Daily Paper might expose the lies of BT and the Establishment Also its swings and roundabouts - The OO parade today is a major negative for Better Together regardless of however they want to spin it of course it is. Was never happy with the OO marching. Enjoy Ruperts endorsement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I've little time for Murdoch, but it would have been useful to have had a daily newspaper in Scotland countering and ridiculing the ridiculous lies of the cringers. On a side issue, anyone who makes a decision to vote based on what a newspaper tells them deserves to have their ballot paper torn up in front of their face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The most toxic element for the Cringers isn't the bigots of the OO, it's the endorsement of senior bankers...those who couldn't see a collapse coming 6 years ago but are now forecasting a 'great depression' because of Scottish independence....and Knights of the realm who are making billions as CEO's of businesses. I see that the head of Deutsche Bank has been roundly ridiculed by other senior figures in the banking industry, and has driven the heads of the NUS in Scotland into supporting 'Yes' and encouraging their thousand of members to do the same. No doubt the Deutsche Bank dude got carried away after an extra scone at Downing Street during the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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