Tartan Tarantula Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Either will be a huge decrease in the Yes vote, or a Yes lead in the region of over 53-47 onwards..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just heard from a good source that it favours yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hard to see a narrow No lead being described as 'sensational', in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Are the polls starting to reflect reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe545 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hard to see a narrow No lead being described as 'sensational', in all honesty. I thought that about the TNS poll though. As amazing as a 16 point swing is, I was hoping for a yes lead. With only a week to go yes need to be streaking ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I thought that about the TNS poll though. As amazing as a 16 point swing is, I was hoping for a yes lead. With only a week to go yes need to be streaking ahead. nope I always thought if we were up to 5 points behind in the polls we would win. and I still do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Smithson of Political Betting just retweeted someone from the Spectator saying there'll be a much needed morale boost for the Union side this afternoon. Hope this isn't related to the Survation poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tarantula Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The poll is out this evening, so I can only hope that hes not referring to it directly. It could well be the rubbish being spouted by BP, or it could well indeed be the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 ICM apparently also have a poll out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Im pretty certain Survation are going to show a No lead. To be honest, I wont lose sleep over it. Another Yes lead or even increasing their lead could see the current bombardment increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I like three pics rotating on the BBC front page at the mo. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ In order they are Cameron speaking Sillars, Salmond, Sturgeon and Harvey laughing Cameron looking like he's just been laughed at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tarantula Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Im only aware of the Survation one today Cove. Thought the ICM one is planned for the weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Roden(t) from Daily Mail saying this will be like Black Wednesday for Yes with all the businesses coming out today for YES. So far BUPA , Standard Life (almost) and BP. Trying to think who will be next as all before have form in opposing YES. Reckon we will see BAE coming out, other than that any ones guess, and I dont think it will change many peoples minds. What would be interesting if after Cameron citing the Spanish will veto our EU membership, if they actually publicly stated that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 My money is on a No rebound. and cue the confirmation from the media that the scots just needed a bit of love bombing - now we have had it we are happy and the union will be saved. The problem is I am worried this might actually be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Roden(t) from Daily Mail saying this will be like Black Wednesday for Yes with all the businesses coming out today for YES. So far BUPA , Standard Life (almost) and BP. Trying to think who will be next as all before have form in opposing YES. Reckon we will see BAE coming out, other than that any ones guess, and I dont think it will change many peoples minds. What would be interesting if after Cameron citing the Spanish will veto our EU membership, if they actually publicly stated that. Dave was chatting up some business folk the other day wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Standard life = http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/tories-campaign-against-scottish-independence-shock/ None of this is news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Roden(t) from Daily Mail saying this will be like Black Wednesday for Yes with all the businesses coming out today for YES. So far BUPA , Standard Life (almost) and BP. Trying to think who will be next as all before have form in opposing YES. Reckon we will see BAE coming out, other than that any ones guess, and I dont think it will change many peoples minds. What would be interesting if after Cameron citing the Spanish will veto our EU membership, if they actually publicly stated that. Babcock, Weir Group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 would be a good moment for Henry Mcleish to grab a microphone if he fancied a place in the history books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Mini canvass when delivering leaflets in Mayfield. 5 Yes, 1 No. That's it, all over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Roden(t) from Daily Mail belittling the will be like Black Wednesday for Yes with all the businesses coming out today for YES. So far BUPA , Standard Life (almost) and BP. Trying to think who will be next as all before have form in opposing YES. Reckon we will see BAE coming out, other than that any ones guess, and I dont think it will change many peoples minds. What would be interesting if after Cameron citing the Spanish will veto our EU membership, if they actually publicly stated that. The politics of fear and suppression laid bare in a last desperate attempt to frighten people. Does scotland an absolute disserviceby effectively threatening and belitteling people. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Twitter is crazy todyay, first rumours were survation would show Yes, now whole run of survation will say NO by a couple of points. dont trust the Record in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 IMO, we've got a few setbacks to stomach before next Thursday. Survation will only be the first of a few. Each setback should be a reminder we've still got lots of work to do. A week is still a long time. Orange Order and Farage still to come and both will be a media circus as well, but carries a risk for both campaigns. Mon-Wed next week is where it really, really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think you are right. Would actually be not bad to get a result a couple of points behind just to keep the pressure on the grassroots to get out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tarantula Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Any of the tweets from people who are likely to know, or just randoms like ourselves? Find a small No lead hard to comprehend from the tweets written by Clegg and Survation. Its either a much increased No lead or a Yes lead of some description. Both would fit into the pattern. Survation had Yes on 47% (excl. UDs), so not much wriggle room for the sort of small No lead which youve obviously seen. In all honesty, the more interesting polling will be done after the last couple of days media bombardment. No change here wouldnt be much of a surprise (if it wasnt for the suspense generated by the Record and Survation themselves), but Id be more interested to see the polling after the 3 amigos and Browns masterplan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Anything that shows a big No lead now is likely to have no credibility. Anyone with half a brain can see there's been a Yes surge, and any poll showing the opposite is almost certainly wrong. Some of the tweets playing up the poll may be either seeking to boost publicity for the Record (or Survation) or setting high expectations for Yes (ahead of a morale sapping let down). There doesn't appear to be as much traction this afternoon so Im not expecting it to be that exciting., probably a 1 point lead for No or another returning 50:50. I dont think I'd be too keen on a Yes lead. If pollsters all start returning Yes, the current media bombardment could mean they all show a regression in Yes support early next week just when we need to be keeping momentum. With a couple of pollsters still showing a No lead, their next polls could give a boost next week when we want them. A part of me wants to see Yes hit 60% though just so I can see what an apocalypse looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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