macy37 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Lee Clark won't see October. A more bizarre appointment you won't see. He's never a football manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Group stages finished (aside from Yinited v Pars tomorrow). Seeded teams for the next round are .... Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Rangers, Partick Thistle, Alloa (bizarrely) and Morton. Non-seeded are... East Fife, St Johnstone, Sneckie, Hamilton, QoS, Motherwell, Ayr, and either United or Dunfermline (if one wins). I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, Rossy said: Group stages finished (aside from Yinited v Pars tomorrow). Seeded teams for the next round are .... Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Rangers, Partick Thistle, Alloa (bizarrely) and Morton. Non-seeded are... East Fife, St Johnstone, Sneckie, Hamilton, QoS, Motherwell, Ayr, and either United or Dunfermline (if one wins). I think. That is beyond stupid from whoever came up with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ormond said: That is beyond stupid from whoever came up with that! I came up with that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, Rossy said: I came up with that.... Oooops. Am I in danger of going back on The Famous list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ormond said: That is beyond stupid from whoever came up with that! Is it not the European spots plus best group winners though, which is pretty fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, macy37 said: Lee Clark won't see October. A more bizarre appointment you won't see. He's never a football manager. Having just had my first experience of his new team you may actually have a point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, thewolf_1980 said: Is it not the European spots plus best group winners though, which is pretty fair? Aye. The 4 group winners with the best records plus the Euro teams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I think Utd just need a draw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Having just had my first experience of his new team you may actually have a point.... Even with big Josh the Mighty, Killie are a stick on for relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, thewolf_1980 said: Is it not the European spots plus best group winners though, which is pretty fair? It states that but it's ludicrous to place a team like Hibs in a seeded spot above a much better side than say Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ormond said: It states that but it's ludicrous to place a team like Hibs in a seeded spot above a much better side than say Saints. The season hasnae started yet, but you're still may favourite six fingered, sister shagging, combine harvester driving farmer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, Rossy said: The season hasnae started yet, but you're still may favourite six fingered, sister shagging, combine harvester driving farmer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heuch Moray Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Rossy said: Group stages finished (aside from Yinited v Pars tomorrow). Seeded teams for the next round are .... Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Rangers, Partick Thistle, Alloa (bizarrely) and Morton. Non-seeded are... East Fife, St Johnstone, Sneckie, Hamilton, QoS, Motherwell, Ayr, and either United or Dunfermline (if one wins). I think. Peterhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, Ormond said: It states that but it's ludicrous to place a team like Hibs in a seeded spot above a much better side than say Saints. Seems perfectly fair to me. The original seedings were based on last seasons league finish. Winning the Scottish Cup is better than finishing 9th in the premiership so being seeded is fair enough. Haven't looked at the tables but thought Caley might be seeded with 3 wins and 1 draw and a plus 12 goal difference but obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Seems perfectly fair to me. The original seedings were based on last seasons league finish. Winning the Scottish Cup is better than finishing 9th in the premiership so being seeded is fair enough. Haven't looked at the tables but thought Caley might be seeded with 3 wins and 1 draw and a plus 12 goal difference but obviously not. Hibs played half a dozen games to win the cup. Saints finished the 4th best team in the country last season but they are seeded above us? That's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ormond said: Hibs played half a dozen games to win the cup. Saints finished the 4th best team in the country last season but they are seeded above us? That's insane. Yes. Winning the Scottish Cup is better than finishing 4th, so gets a better reward. It's also harder to do. How many times have St. Johnstone finished in the top 4 compared to winning the Scottish Cup. Edited July 30, 2016 by iainmac1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, iainmac1 said: Yes. Winning the Scottish Cup is better than finishing 4th. It's also harder to do. How many times have St. Johnstone finished in the top 4 compared to winning the Scottish Cup. A team who plays in a league lower should not be seeded higher than the 4th best team in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ormond said: A team who plays in a league lower should not be seeded higher than the 4th best team in the country. If they win the Scottish Cup they should. It doesn't happen often that a lower league team wins the cup but they did so they get the rewards that goes with it. There won't be many fans who would chose 4th in the premiership over a  Scottish Cup win. It's the better achievement for most fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, iainmac1 said: If they win the Scottish Cup they should. It doesn't happen often that a lower league team wins the cup but they did so they get the rewards that goes with it. There won't be many fans who would chose 4th in the premiership over a  Scottish Cup win. It's the better achievement for most fans. They got the reward. Euro fitba'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: If they win the Scottish Cup they should. It doesn't happen often that a lower league team wins the cup but they did so they get the rewards that goes with it. Correct. It's only happened twice, so unlikely to be a regular issue. You'd expect normal service will be resumed next season and Rangers won't be participating in the group stage either.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, adamntg said: I think Utd just need a draw? But if they lose the penalty shoot out, Dunfermline leap frog them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 That's how they do it in the Champions and Europa league. Seems a fair reward for winning your group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Ormond said: A team who plays in a league lower should not be seeded higher than the 4th best team in the country. Yet they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, deecie said: Yet they are! Where would this board be without your wisdom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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