Ormond Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 One thing about Wales mind, take Aaron Ramsay and Gareth Bale out of that team and I highly doubt they'd have qualified. Take Scott Brown out of ours and I bet we bloody would have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Take Scott Brown out of ours and I bet we bloody would have! I do love Broonie but his best days at international level are sadly behind him right enough. It's time to replace him. Can't just keep playing him because he's "good old Broony" as some would have us do. Edited January 5, 2016 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtownards Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 One thing about Wales mind, take Aaron Ramsay and Gareth Bale out of that team and I highly doubt they'd have qualified. lol...... Take the wheels of your car and I doubt you'll get to the shops....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I do love Broonie but his best days at international level are sadly behind him right enough. It's time to replace him. Can't just keep playing him because he's "good old Broony" as some would have us do. Used to really like him but he has let us down badly and especially as he was meant to be captain. I just don't see him knuckling down and putting in the same effort anymore. Not to mention that he seems to be getting younger in the head as he ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The medal count is irrelevant. Medals only equal tangible success and only one team can be tangibly successful in any single tournament. What makes a winner isn't developed on a football field - it's something that's either in your head or it's not. It's something Jock Stein and SAF both knew. What was their total medal count as players? The players they managed won a hell of a lot of medals though. And many went on to form the backbone of strong Scotland teams. I'm not saying it's the sole gauge of a player's capability, but it does give an indication. Fill your team with winners and there's more chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanx Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Our main problem is not character/attitude/mentality or whatever you want to call it. The problem is a lack of technical ability. Gordon Strachan knows this and has spoken about it many times. Because of the high pressing nature of modern football, a player must be able to control the ball under pressure from an opponent, and (almost in the same movement) make some space for themselves. Most of our players really struggle with this and so when we have possession we invariably end up playing the ball backwards until the eventual long ball from the back - the players just can't take the ball facing their own goal then turn and beat the opponent who is hassling them. We very rarely have truly secure possession of the ball. That is the main reason we struggle against the weaker teams. Being pressed by a physically fit Lithuanian is just as difficult as by a physically fit Croatian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Now you mention physical pressing, back in the day the likes of Bremner, Souness even Roy Aitken, would crunch an opponent to welcome them to Scotland. These days challenges like those earn yellow and red cards. Which may be a change for the better, but it's certainly another reason why teams don't fear coming to Hampden as much as in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Our main problem is not character/attitude/mentality or whatever you want to call it. The problem is a lack of technical ability. Gordon Strachan knows this and has spoken about it many times. Because of the high pressing nature of modern football, a player must be able to control the ball under pressure from an opponent, and (almost in the same movement) make some space for themselves. Most of our players really struggle with this and so when we have possession we invariably end up playing the ball backwards until the eventual long ball from the back - the players just can't take the ball facing their own goal then turn and beat the opponent who is hassling them. We very rarely have truly secure possession of the ball. That is the main reason we struggle against the weaker teams. Being pressed by a physically fit Lithuanian is just as difficult as by a physically fit Croatian. That's why Bannan gets a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 will the next euro be 24 teams as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) will the next euro be 24 teams as well?Aye, no host country though. Groups will be spread around the continent, some games will be at Hampden. Semis and final at Wembley...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020 Edited January 6, 2016 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 will the next euro be 24 teams as well? 24 teams - however qualification is slightly different due to the new nations league which starts in 2018 there will be 10 qualifying groups - 6 groups of 5 teams and 4 groups of 6 teams - top 2 teams from each group qualify The remaining 4 teams will qualify from the Nations League which starts in 2018/2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The way things go for us, we could be the host nation and still no qualify This new system looks a loada gash imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary2 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Our main problem is not character/attitude/mentality or whatever you want to call it. The problem is a lack of technical ability. Gordon Strachan knows this and has spoken about it many times. Because of the high pressing nature of modern football, a player must be able to control the ball under pressure from an opponent, and (almost in the same movement) make some space for themselves. Most of our players really struggle with this and so when we have possession we invariably end up playing the ball backwards until the eventual long ball from the back - the players just can't take the ball facing their own goal then turn and beat the opponent who is hassling them. We very rarely have truly secure possession of the ball. That is the main reason we struggle against the weaker teams. Being pressed by a physically fit Lithuanian is just as difficult as by a physically fit Croatian. I take it you are talking about the superb...technical ability of Northern Ireland here....or was it the Albanian flair that Gordon had noticed... Change the record any comment on here that contains the words Gordon,Knows or plans...I just switch off. He couldnt plan a F**K UP in a brothel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 lets hope the games are back to Saturday/Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanpar Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 lets hope the games are back to Saturday/Wednesday They won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanx Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I take it you are talking about the superb...technical ability of Northern Ireland here....or was it the Albanian flair that Gordon had noticed... Change the record any comment on here that contains the words Gordon,Knows or plans...I just switch off. He couldnt plan a F**K UP in a brothel. I suppose we could try just running about a lot and getting stuck in for another 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 They changed it once, they can change it back. They ever though of asking the ffkin fans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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