phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ohhhh feck. Is Admin4 actually a real mod or is that just a fake username that has slipped past the mods. Well you communicated with them, remember where they said they "can't recall" sending out the cease and desist letter about Rangers and locking the thread so every could move on, mind they said that never happened , yet it was there in the archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) A grown man crying to the internet. Mopetastic. A nelson muntz from the simpsons arrives, was waiting on this as reading through. Edited December 14, 2015 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You'll not be able to use the data protection act to remove information you've volunteered, which is everything you put on the TAMB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well you communicated with them, remember where they said they "can't recall" sending out the cease and desist letter about Rangers and locking the thread so every could move on, mind they said that never happened , yet it was there in the archives. Apparently that was before the current admin4's time. And I checked admin4 does appear to be part of the moderating team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You can however request the name of data controller through the DPA, see what they hold on you, the first and last name of the person who is the DPA. What happens with it, if it's passed on to anyone else and how they obtained it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What about that google thing and people's right to have stuff eventually forgotten. Could that be exploited by EK CElts legal team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Apparently that was before the current admin4's time. And I checked admin4 does appear to be part of the moderating team. Best practice would be to keep quiet then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What about that google thing and people's right to have stuff eventually forgotten. Could that be exploited by EK CElts legal team? here's "best practice" "If individuals choose to unsubscribe from your service, close an account or request that their information be deleted, it is good practice to meet these requests, or help individuals to do this themselves, as soon as possible, unless you have a compelling business need or are under a legal obligation to retain the information." Obviously the assumption is adults are actually running the site, as opposed to petty children. There is no business need or legal obligation. I can't remember my details perhaps we should all put in data requests formally, then that takes this out of the admins hands and into the actual site owners hands who might have to sit in and fill dozens of data requests. by-pass the child to a responsible adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Also with the mod/admins you have to bear in mind with them it is one writhing mass of incestuous name-swapping. admin4 today might be mod11 tomorrow might be mod69 you name it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 here's "best practice" "If individuals choose to unsubscribe from your service, close an account or request that their information be deleted, it is good practice to meet these requests, or help individuals to do this themselves, as soon as possible, unless you have a compelling business need or are under a legal obligation to retain the information." Obviously the assumption is adults are actually running the site, as opposed to petty children. There is no business need or legal obligation. I can't remember my details perhaps we should all put in data requests formally, then that takes this out of the admins hands and into the actual site owners hands who might have to sit in and fill dozens of data requests. by-pass the child to a responsible adult. The mods could ban the account but before they do replace the user name with some phrase "Deleted Account" or whatever. Given how frequently the mods delete the archives old posts are not around very long anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Also with the mod/admins you have to bear in mind with them it is one writhing mass of incestuous name-swapping. admin4 today might be mod11 tomorrow might be mod69 you name it... That's why you put in a DPA pay £10 and get the name of the data controller, not their board name. This is all totally unnecessary though. Give some folk a wee bit of power and you get the "bouncer" affect (apologies to scottybigdog who is a door steward and qualified etc, and not a "bouncer"). Imagine you own this board and suddenly you're getting notices that you have 40 days to comply with 120 data requests for the TAMB. The Data controller has to fill everything out. It's totally petty but hey it's a trickledown economy here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 of course you can here is the thread http://taboard.com/archive/index.php?showtopic=137029 Banned him in leui of a deletion, just asked and got it done. That was interesting. I suppose. If that was the policy back in 2012, it's not the policy now. The policy has changed. It is no longer seen as a method of allowing the running of the board in the way that is best. I guess (and I don't know cos I can't be bothered to check) that none of the currently active Admin/Mod team were active back in those days. But I'm not to sure. Perhaps someone who knows the identity of all of the Admin/Mod team can help the board out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I've read further in the thread. DPA requests, named persons, regulations, failure to comply...... This is a football message board. I'm a Scotland fan. I volunteer to do this thankless task (not that I'm looking for any thanks). I don't need this shit. I can't speak for the rest of the team - so I won't - but I'd rather see the board close down completely than have to jump through these hoops too satisfy the cravings of one self-serving attention-seeker. Or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 This could end badly for all. You could be forcing EK Celt to start bad mouthing google and post links to dungeon porn and goat fetish sites (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 This could end badly for all. You could be forcing EK Celt to start bad mouthing google and post links to dungeon porn and goat fetish sites (again). Oh, did he? Even though he's left, we can check back on his account for that. Because we don't delete accounts, you know. We're not daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ahhh but we are talking about banning not deleting at this point. I am pretty sure if someone really went for it you would be forced to ban them still. That is what 'you' did for peterheid scouser and as you know admin4 that is TAMB case law now and the precedent has been set by whatever tamb law lord that was sitting back then. Probably Flat Earth he was a reasonable chap, if a little grumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I can't speak for the rest of the team - so I won't - but I'd rather see the board close down completely than have to jump through these hoops too satisfy the cravings of one self-serving attention-seeker. Or two. Beautifully put, bravo. If you don't want to play by the rules don't monetize your site. Happy to collect the benefits of traffic unwilling to deal with the responsibilities. Shutting down the site is a rather drastic way of letting Ek getting his way. although shutting down the site wouldn't preclude your responsibilities under DPA, you'd still hold the data and be accountable for it. Any request received before the date is still actionable. So shutting downt he site would only satisfy Ek-celt. should really think things through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Beautifully put, bravo. If you don't want to play by the rules don't monetize your site. Happy to collect the benefits of traffic unwilling to deal with the responsibilities. Shutting down the site is a rather drastic way of letting Ek getting his way. although shutting down the site wouldn't preclude your responsibilities under DPA, you'd still hold the data and be accountable for it. Any request received before the date is still actionable. So shutting downt he site would only satisfy Ek-celt. should really think things through. I "might" think things through if I gave a shit. It's a football message board. It's not that important in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ahhh but we are talking about banning not deleting at this point. I am pretty sure if someone really went for it you would be forced to ban them still. That is what 'you' did for peterheid scouser and as you know admin4 that is TAMB case law now and the precedent has been set by whatever tamb law lord that was sitting back then. Probably Flat Earth he was a reasonable chap, if a little grumpy. Lord High Executioner. Is he the guy from Aberdeen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Beautifully put, bravo. If you don't want to play by the rules don't monetize your site. Happy to collect the benefits of traffic unwilling to deal with the responsibilities. Shutting down the site is a rather drastic way of letting Ek getting his way. although shutting down the site wouldn't preclude your responsibilities under DPA, you'd still hold the data and be accountable for it. Any request received before the date is still actionable. So shutting downt he site would only satisfy Ek-celt. should really think things through. Do you think there a major benefits to be had from running this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I "might" think things through if I gave a shit. It's a football message board. It's not that important in my life. Go on shut the board down to spite ek-celt. Anyone want to lend me a tenner to see if we have a bluffer or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Do you think there a major benefits to be had from running this site? that will depend entirely what the definition of major benefit is. What is the thinking behind major benefits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Go on shut the board down to spite ek-celt. Anyone want to lend me a tenner to see if we have a bluffer or not? I won't shut the board down. I don't have the knowledge, ability nor authority. What gave you the impression that I did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I still think your fastest way to a 'voluntary' ban is become a prolific poster of donkey gobbling images. There is no mod alive who can withstand a tsunami of donkey dongs, none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I still think your fastest way to a 'voluntary' ban is become a prolific poster of donkey gobbling images. There is no mod alive who can withstand a tsunami of donkey dongs, none. You been here before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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