ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 thats post is far too sensible for this thread Eddie he only has 2 under 21 caps, he has been released from a chapionship club and only has 2 goals this season he will be as well chucking it. i remember when we signed this winger on a free transfer who only had 1 under 21 cap. he then scored a hatrick against Hibs at Hampden, won 25 scotland caps and we sold him for a seven figure sum so it turned out alright in the end Yes very good. He simply isn't anywhere near good enough. Sorry but its a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 For the amount of players to come through having played at youth and junior levels for Scotland there are just as many who don't make it at full level as do. Look at the likes of Robbie Foy, Islam Feruz, John Fleck etc etc who were bigged up and flopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yes very good. He simply isn't anywhere near good enough. Sorry but its a fact For what? The Scotland squad? Judging from what I have seen of Forrest and what I have seen of o'halloran this season i know who I would rather have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Yes very good. He simply isn't anywhere near good enough. Sorry but its a fact It's more your opinion than a fact, really. My opinion (not a fact admittedly....) is that he's been the most exciting player at St Johnstone this season by a mile, has scared the shit out of pretty much every full back he's faced - so much so that most teams are now putting 2 or 3 men on him, and Dundee United pretty much resorted to kicking him every time he got the ball until he went off injured. He has improved significantly from last season. Bearing in mind this is really only his 2nd full season of regular football, he's now beginning to show that he has confidence in his ability, thanks in no small part to Tommy Wright's man management. On current form, I genuinely wouldn't swap him for any other wide player in the Scottish Leagues. There are still weaknesses there - making the wrong decisions at times, poor final ball, not tracking back occasionally - but he's improving these aspects all the time. As Eddie says, if he's still playing to the same level next year, other than the fact he plays for a diddy team, there's no reason why he shouldn't be considered. If I'm being pedantic, he's actually scored 3 times this season if you count the European games. Edited October 29, 2015 by Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 For what? The Scotland squad? Judging from what I have seen of Forrest and what I have seen of o'halloran this season i know who I would rather have. Yes the squad. Forrest was one of our best players in the recent qualifiers. O'Halloran is barely an established SPL player. Ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yes the squad. Forrest was one of our best players in the recent qualifiers. O'Halloran is barely an established SPL player. Ridiculous Forrest was one of our best players in the recent qualifiers? I assume you are a Celtic fan and you are talking about European competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Forrest was one of our best players in the recent qualifiers? I assume you are a Celtic fan and you are talking about European competition? I am absolutely not a Celtic fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I am absolutely not a Celtic fan Or a Forrest fan generally. But he's MILES ahead of an SPL nobody like O'Halloran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Or a Forrest fan generally. But he's MILES ahead of an SPL nobody like O'Halloran. He is not and he was nowhere near being one of our best players of the last qualification campaign. He only played 3 games and wasn't very good in two of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 He is not and he was nowhere near being one of our best players of the last qualification campaign. He only played 3 games and wasn't very good in two of them The last campaign no... The last qualifiers yes. Two of the worst players in the campaign were Fletcher and Forrest - Both were standouts v Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The last campaign no... The last qualifiers yes. Two of the worst players in the campaign were Fletcher and Forrest - Both were standouts v Poland. Forrest didn't stand out against Poland, it was probably his best performance in a scotland shirt but then the bar wasn't set very high on his previous performances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Or a Forrest fan generally. But he's MILES ahead of an SPL nobody like O'Halloran. Yep, no goals and 1 assist in his 14 games for Celtic so far this season, playing in the same position as the SPL nobody. Clearly MILES ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 A lot of delusional chat here.O'Halloran isn't good enough, not even close. That's it for me - I'll leave the St Johnstone fans to promote him to the hilt in the hope of a call up which will never come unless Fraser Wright becomes Scotland manager. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintydave Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Some excellent points there Nelly, facts to back them up. Not opinion being passed off as fact. You forgot to add as well that Forrest would be playing with a better calibre of player (in my opinion) making it easier for him to provide goals and assists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I've only seen this player a couple of times and I'm not suggesting he should be in the squad yet, but those suggesting he should NEVER be in the squad are a bit odd. Btw he's quite similar to Gordon Durie, who was excellent in away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Some excellent points there Nelly, facts to back them up. Not opinion being passed off as fact. You forgot to add as well that Forrest would be playing with a better calibre of player (in my opinion) making it easier for him to provide goals and assists? That's very much a fact, David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radian_13 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I've only seen this player a couple of times and I'm not suggesting he should be in the squad yet, but those suggesting he should NEVER be in the squad are a bit odd. Btw he's quite similar to Gordon Durie, who was excellent in away games. I thought he was a winger?....Durie was a striker!! How are they similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I thought he was a winger?....Durie was a striker!! How are they similar? Durie, like Hartley earlier mentioned in the thread turned from average Scottish premier league players into important Scotland players in their mid to late twenties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The guy who claims his opinion is fact is clearly a wind up merchant. This was cemented by his claims that Forrest performed well, ever. I think O'Halloran is one to keep an eye on, good to see guys doing well in the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I thought he was a winger?....Durie was a striker!! How are they similar? Durie sometimes played wide and this guy sometimes plays as a striker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Proud Scot, you obviously have no clue what a fitba' looks like let alone kicked one. What an absolute headcase! I only asked the question, nothing more. Hannibal makes some excellent points about Hartley who was signed from Saints. Proud Scot, stick to Championship Manager son. Bloody clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Proud Scot, you obviously have no clue what a fitba' looks like let alone kicked one. What an absolute headcase! I only asked the question, nothing more. Hannibal makes some excellent points about Hartley who was signed from Saints. Proud Scot, stick to Championship Manager son. Bloody clown. Quite honestly, I think that there are a few on here who base their opinion on players - especially teenage prospects* - based on their stats on Football Manger ! As for O'Halloran, I think it's a bit early to put him in the Scotland squad but if he can keep his form going into 2016 then why not give him a go in a friendly ? *I know O'Halloran isn't a teenager anymore but the point stands. Edited October 30, 2015 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Quite honestly, I think that there are a few on here who base their opinion on players - especially teenage prospects - based on their stats on Football Manger ! As for O'Halloran, I think it's a bit early to put him in the Scotland squad but if he can keep his form going into 2016 then why not give him a go in a friendly ? Sensible as always Thistle. The problem is on this board especially there are too many wee laddies who get their fitba' knowledge from Sky Sports News. Obsessed about fancy clubs with more airtime. I never said O' Halloran should be capped but that perhaps he should be studied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Proud Scot, you obviously have no clue what a fitba' looks like let alone kicked one. What an absolute headcase! I only asked the question, nothing more. Hannibal makes some excellent points about Hartley who was signed from Saints. Proud Scot, stick to Championship Manager son. Bloody clown. Sensible as always Thistle. The problem is on this board especially there are too many wee laddies who get their fitba' knowledge from Sky Sports News. Obsessed about fancy clubs with more airtime. I never said O' Halloran should be capped but that perhaps he should be studied? thanks pal, thats the nicest thing you have ever said about me Its similar to the Hearts fans who are looking for Paterson to get a call up, we dont have a game until March at the earliest, if they both keep up their current form then they might be worth a call up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Painful chat on here - Championship manager!? What.No I'll stick to just going to games and watching them on TV and not wanting sub standard players in our national squad. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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