Lamia Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 On 24 February 2016 at 0:23 PM, PapofGlencoe said: Point is, i think through more official channels we're looking at large scale migration of families - not men 18-35 years old as the media would have us believe. Certainly now, rather than earlier in the crisis. This. I honestly don't think people actually realise that they are ordinary families just trying to have a normal life. I for one certainly don't think I am more deserving than them to have what they are being denied just down to an accident of birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaggy Jim Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There was an excellent interview on Good Morning Scotland today with an English artist and his daughter who live on Lesbos and have been helping refugees arriving on the beach next to their home for the last year. Every politician in Europe should be made to listen to it. It's at 1 hour 39 minutes. http://bbc.in/1oFKXvL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Sphinx Those look like interesting bits to listen to, will need to remind myself when i get a bit of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 On 24/02/2016 at 1:23 PM, PapofGlencoe said: I thought I'd comment as i have some experience from a refugee camp in the Balkans (Croatian/Slovenian border). I ended up going as a volunteer to one of the processing camps (long story...interest, seemed like a good thing to do, invited by a Croatian girl..very long story).. The camp was one they stop at when they first get to Slovenia. There were about 6 large semi-permanent tents to house maybe 1500 people each. Hard to tell exact numbers but when i was there a further 800 arrived straight off a police escorted convoy of buses (we gave every one of them food, water, chocolate for the kids). I didn't know what to expect, I'm not naive (I've seen the pictures of large groups of men). This was different. It must have been about 75% families. With small children. Head of the household, wife and kids. And they look so normal..that's an obvious point..they are not aliens but human beings..but you get my drift. Very grateful, polite people. I did wonder, while i was driving through beautiful Slovenia, why they didn't want to stay there instead of Austria (the destination). I can't think these people are scroungers at all, I think they're just looking for the best life. I'm not sure the Balkans are perceived (rightly or wrongly) as a safe haven - there are large anti immigrant feelings. In this camp, there were only about 20 volunteers; and some of them i'm told were paid by the UN. Few were local. Point is, i think through more official channels we're looking at large scale migration of families - not men 18-35 years old as the media would have us believe. Certainly now, rather than earlier in the crisis. I do remember there was a much smaller group which we didn't see, the army and police told us to clear an area in a tent for "dangerous people". They were to get "deal with". It seemed like a small number, though, i wonder what the hell it was all about. Anyway, that's what I saw over three days. I get that there are political leaders having big arguments but from what I saw it's families crossing the borders - they see Western Europe as the ideal. That genuine unfiltered untwisted observation of a real camp will never get you a job as a journo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/31086082/police-deny-being-outnumbered-and-underprepared-as-out-of-control-brawls-rock-melbourne-and-sydney/ Interesting night last night in Sydney and Melbourne. But yeah, keep letting anyone into your country. Also in perth, a few weeks ago, just up the road from me, a sudanese kid, wannabe gangsta, was murdered and I think 2 aboriginals are up for his killing. These groups hate each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/31086082/police-deny-being-outnumbered-and-underprepared-as-out-of-control-brawls-rock-melbourne-and-sydney/ Interesting night last night in Sydney and Melbourne. But yeah, keep letting anyone into your country. Also in perth, a few weeks ago, just up the road from me, a sudanese kid, wannabe gangsta, was murdered and I think 2 aboriginals are up for his killing. These groups hate each other. Shocking state of affairs. Who let those aboriginals into Australia in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 What were the nationalities of the gang members? I've been trying to find out, apex and Islander gangs they are called. Where did you find out that info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Frau Merkel under pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 hours ago, phart said: What were the nationalities of the gang members? I've been trying to find out, apex and Islander gangs they are called. Where did you find out that info? I managed to find out after much random searching that Apex have a large number of sudanese and islanders are pacific islanders., had to go beyond all the reuters stuff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Have to say there was plenty of refugees kicking about over in the Faterland at the weekend. I didn't find it comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Wow a Saudi airstrike in Yemen has actually made the news over here. They've been starving the whole country for a while now. Also using planes they're not meant to have, wonder who lent them them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Russia withdrawing militarily from Syria as they say their objectives " Our objective is to stabilize the legitimate authority and create conditions for a political compromise" have been met. We'll see what happens , seems the Russians are a lot better tat fighting ISIS than the West, unless the West were really just fecking about trying to have their cake and eat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Have been keeping an eye on Yemen ,heard death toll about 4,000 so far. But hey the saudi's must be good guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, fishcumnock said: Have been keeping an eye on Yemen ,heard death toll about 4,000 so far. But hey the saudi's must be good guys? Oxfam reporting 6 million suffering from starvation. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-humanitarian-idUSKCN0VJ1D1 bombing all the hospitals etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Aye. It was bombing I was referring to. Countless others no doubt due to lack of supplies medicine etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) On 13 March 2016 at 0:13 PM, aaid said: Shocking state of affairs. Who let those aboriginals into Australia in the first place. These migrants don't seem to ever see the irony Edited March 16, 2016 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, thplinth said: He might not be everyones cup of tea but he reveals some pretty amazing information on how this has been working. It really is a scandal. I watched his videos on YouTube and always find his videos interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 10 hours ago, thplinth said: He mentions this in the video but just in case you missed it... the migrant boats were stopped at one point. http://investmentwatchblog.com/g7-leaders-ask-for-migrant-boats-to-be-stopped-during-their-visit-because-of-security-concerns-what-about-the-rest-of-us I know, funny how the G7 leaders don't want to see it. I managed to catch it on Twitter, absolutely reeks of corruption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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