aljay Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) On 3/7/2016 at 3:32 PM, ErsatzThistle said: Btw what on earth went wrong for Jim Fallon during his stint as Dumbarton manager between September 1995 and November 1996 ? Their record in that time was two wins, six draws and a whopping forty-two losses Jim Fallon was a Clydebank player, who took up a post as physio with the Sons of the Rock during Billy Lamont's time as boss. Lamont's played a gung-Ho 3-4-3 to fair success, with forwards Charlie Gibson, John McQuade, Jimmy Gilmour, Martin Mooney or Shuggy Ward never having to enter their own half. Murdo McLeod took over as player manager for 1 season (94-95) and despite occasionally getting in the way, managed a promotion to the 2nd tier, signing those renowned pace-merchants Chic Charnley & Hugh Burns and settling down for a relegation-avoidance campaign as the only part-time team in the division. Murdo's Sons got off to a decent start, beating Hamilton Accies at Boghead, courtesy of a long range Burns goal and the following week a Chic Charnley 65 yarder helped to beat Morton at Cappielow. Then Murdo buggered off to Partick Thistle in a move that isn't fondly remembered by fans of either DFC or PTFC. For the sake of continuity, But without the benefit of any prior management experience or discernible personality, charisma or tactical awareness, Fallon was pushed, blinking into relative stratospheric anonymity of the Boghead hotseat. Now, aside from Accies and Morton, D1 that year was of a high standard, including Dundee United along with Dunfermline and Dundee teams boasting the emerging talents of guys like Neil McCann, Morten Weighorst and Jackie McNamara. Despite winning their first two games, it was always going to be difficult to keep up with the pack. However, the utter cluelessness of the capitulation that followed that season put Dumbarton into a joyless tailspin which took about 12 seasons to recover from. Bizarrely, the only other win which was achieved prior to relegation was against Dundee United, 1-0 thanks to an 89th minute breakaway goal. Revenge was had in short order, when the return tie was won 8-0 by the Arabs. All the while, the hapless Fallon, probably a nice guy but hopelessly out of his depth, stood on, quietly watching while the club's supporters loudly accused him of some form of odd Bankie double-agentry, trying to wreck our club from within. Having finally chucked it after some horrific abuse, and no notable improvement in results despite relegation and easier opponents, he went back to Clydebank as physio. Memorably, in future Sons Vs Bankies games, the loudest roars of the day came if a player needed treatment, whereby the bold Jimbo would amble across the pitch, magic sponge and freeze spray in hand, to a cacophony of invective and horrific personal abuse. Anyone without a grasp of the recent history would have been bemused to see the shocking level of hatred being displayed to the sight of an injured player being treated by the medical staff, but such was Fallon's legacy. It was around this time that DFC ballsed up the ordering of a new strip and ordered the wrong colour coding, ending up with yellow/red rather than yellow/black. Jim also carried the blame for this confusion which, although corrected after a few games, had resulted in the players believing they had signed for Albion Rovers and putting in performances appropriate for that particular club. Tl;Dr - Fallon was an explosive shitstorm in a carousel of clusterbaws. Worse than Hitler. Edited March 11, 2016 by aljay anger equals typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 30 minutes ago, aljay said: Jim Fallon was a Clydebank player, who took up a post as physio with the Sons of the Rock during Billy Lamont's time as boss. Lamont's played a gung-Ho 3-4-3 to fair success, with forwards Charlie Gibson, John McQuade, Jimmy Gilmour, Martin Mooney or Shuggy Ward never having to enter their own half. Murdo McLeod took over as player manager for 1 season (94-95) and despite occasionally getting in the way, managed a promotion to the 2nd tier, signing those renowned pace-merchants Chic Charnley & Hugh Burns and settling down for a relegation-avoidance campaign as the only part-time team in the division. Murdo's Sons got off to a decent start, beating Hamilton Accies at Boghead, courtesy of a long range Burns goal and the following week a Chic Charnley 65 yarder helped to beat Morton at Cappielow. Then Murdo buggered off to Partick Thistle in a move that isn't fondly remembered by fans of either DFC or PTFC. For the sake of continuity, But without the benefit of any prior management experience or discernible personality, charisma or tactical awareness, Fallon was pushed, blinking into relative stratospheric anonymity of the Boghead hotseat. Now, aside from Accies and Morton, D1 that year was of a high standard, including Dundee United along with Dunfermline and Dundee teams boasting the emerging talents of guys like Neil McCann, Morten Weighorst and Jackie McNamara. Despite winning their first two games, it was always going to be difficult to keep up with the pack. However, the utter cluelessness of the capitulation that followed that season put Dumbarton into a joyless tailspin which took about 12 seasons to recover from. Bizarrely, the only other win which was achieved prior to relegation was against Dundee United, 1-0 thanks to an 89th minute breakaway goal. Revenge was had in short order, when the return tie was won 8-0 by the Arabs. All the while, the hapless Fallon, probably a nice guy but hopelessly out of his depth, stood on, quietly watching while the club's supporters loudly accused him of some form of odd Bankie double-agentry, trying to wreck our club from within. Having finally chucked it after some horrific abuse, and no notable improvement in results despite relegation and easier opponents, he went back to Clydebank as physio. Memorably, in future Sons Vs Bankies games, the loudest roars of the day came if a player needed treatment, whereby the bold Jimbo would amble across the pitch, magic sponge and freeze spray in hand, to a cacophony of invective and horrific personal abuse. Anyone without a grasp of the recent history would have been bemused to see the shocking level of hatred being displayed to the sight of an injured player being treated by the medical staff, but such was Fallon's legacy. It was around this time that DFC ballsed up the ordering of a new strip and ordered the wrong colour coding, ending up with yellow/red rather than yellow/black. Jim also carried the blame for this confusion which, although corrected after a few games, had resulted in the players believing they had signed for Albion Rovers and putting in performances appropriate for that particular club. Tl;Dr - Fallon was an explosive shitstorm in a carousel of clusterbaws. Worse than Hitler. Jim Fallon was also the Physio at my brothers school (Corseford School for handicapped children). He was a really nice guy and excellent in his field of expertise. Managed to help my brother no end. Especially with his walking so will always be grateful to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 My wife and her mates all support Dumbarton, and I like to reel out that 8-0 to this day. It was followed later in the season by a 6-1 as well. Makes me think maybe this relegation malarkey isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Lee Clark ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 hours ago, aljay said: Jim Fallon was a Clydebank player, who took up a post as physio with the Sons of the Rock during Billy Lamont's time as boss. Lamont's played a gung-Ho 3-4-3 to fair success, with forwards Charlie Gibson, John McQuade, Jimmy Gilmour, Martin Mooney or Shuggy Ward never having to enter their own half. Murdo McLeod took over as player manager for 1 season (94-95) and despite occasionally getting in the way, managed a promotion to the 2nd tier, signing those renowned pace-merchants Chic Charnley & Hugh Burns and settling down for a relegation-avoidance campaign as the only part-time team in the division. Murdo's Sons got off to a decent start, beating Hamilton Accies at Boghead, courtesy of a long range Burns goal and the following week a Chic Charnley 65 yarder helped to beat Morton at Cappielow. Then Murdo buggered off to Partick Thistle in a move that isn't fondly remembered by fans of either DFC or PTFC. For the sake of continuity, But without the benefit of any prior management experience or discernible personality, charisma or tactical awareness, Fallon was pushed, blinking into relative stratospheric anonymity of the Boghead hotseat. Now, aside from Accies and Morton, D1 that year was of a high standard, including Dundee United along with Dunfermline and Dundee teams boasting the emerging talents of guys like Neil McCann, Morten Weighorst and Jackie McNamara. Despite winning their first two games, it was always going to be difficult to keep up with the pack. However, the utter cluelessness of the capitulation that followed that season put Dumbarton into a joyless tailspin which took about 12 seasons to recover from. Bizarrely, the only other win which was achieved prior to relegation was against Dundee United, 1-0 thanks to an 89th minute breakaway goal. Revenge was had in short order, when the return tie was won 8-0 by the Arabs. All the while, the hapless Fallon, probably a nice guy but hopelessly out of his depth, stood on, quietly watching while the club's supporters loudly accused him of some form of odd Bankie double-agentry, trying to wreck our club from within. Having finally chucked it after some horrific abuse, and no notable improvement in results despite relegation and easier opponents, he went back to Clydebank as physio. Memorably, in future Sons Vs Bankies games, the loudest roars of the day came if a player needed treatment, whereby the bold Jimbo would amble across the pitch, magic sponge and freeze spray in hand, to a cacophony of invective and horrific personal abuse. Anyone without a grasp of the recent history would have been bemused to see the shocking level of hatred being displayed to the sight of an injured player being treated by the medical staff, but such was Fallon's legacy. It was around this time that DFC ballsed up the ordering of a new strip and ordered the wrong colour coding, ending up with yellow/red rather than yellow/black. Jim also carried the blame for this confusion which, although corrected after a few games, had resulted in the players believing they had signed for Albion Rovers and putting in performances appropriate for that particular club. Tl;Dr - Fallon was an explosive shitstorm in a carousel of clusterbaws. Worse than Hitler. Bring back Mark McGhee !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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