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The UK debt currently stands at 1.4 Trillion pounds.

If we go into a currency union with the rUK we would be obliged to accept approx 10% of this debt.

Hypothetically speaking, if Scotland was already an independent country how would we ever have been able to amass so

much debt for such a small country. We would have motorways leading to all of our major cities and a rail structure that

would be up there with the best. We would not have food banks. We would not have industries threatening to leave.

Where has the UKs debt come from? I do not believe that Scotland has managed to amass 10% of 1.4 trillion pounds.

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The UK debt currently stands at 1.4 Trillion pounds.

If we go into a currency union with the rUK we would be obliged to accept approx 10% of this debt.

Hypothetically speaking, if Scotland was already an independent country how would we ever have been able to amass so

much debt for such a small country. We would have motorways leading to all of our major cities and a rail structure that

would be up there with the best. We would not have food banks. We would not have industries threatening to leave.

Where has the UKs debt come from? I do not believe that Scotland has managed to amass 10% of 1.4 trillion pounds.

http://niesr.ac.uk/publications/assets-and-liabilities-and-scottish-independence#.VBPozWOuTpw

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/08/independent-scotland-debt-thinktank

No need to worry about any debt as the SNP won't be paying it so its a bit of a red herring. Other than the brassneck and pariah status that Scotland will encounter in the eyes of the financial markets.

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http://niesr.ac.uk/publications/assets-and-liabilities-and-scottish-independence#.VBPozWOuTpw

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/08/independent-scotland-debt-thinktank

No need to worry about any debt as the SNP won't be paying it so its a bit of a red herring. Other than the brassneck and pariah status that Scotland will encounter in the eyes of the financial markets.

Aye brass neck and pariah status.

ONS now adding hooker and junky income to GDP like every other debt ridden normal nation does

https://archive.today/RTgrk

"If it ain't broke then don't fix it"

"best of both worlds"

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Without the revenue stream from Scotland would the rUK manage to keep up payments on this debt or would they default and cause a financial meltdown?

#rUKneedus

depends how long term you want to look at it. Oil won't last forever but rUK would have to readjust thats for sure. Hence the current Fracking for oil rush.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2014/sep/08/north-sea-oil-revenue-independent-scotland

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depends how long term you want to look at it. Oil won't last forever.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2014/sep/08/north-sea-oil-revenue-independent-scotland

Who mentioned oil? An independent Scotland will prosper with or without the oil.It is the rUK that needs the oil to help pay off their/our debt.

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http://niesr.ac.uk/publications/assets-and-liabilities-and-scottish-independence#.VBPozWOuTpw

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/08/independent-scotland-debt-thinktank

No need to worry about any debt as the SNP won't be paying it so its a bit of a red herring. Other than the brassneck and pariah status that Scotland will encounter in the eyes of the financial markets.

You really are ashamed of Scotland aren't you. (Its not a question)

Do you happen to work for the BBC or are you just having your own little personal competition with them? (That is a question)

Ignoring the facts and saying what suits your agenda ensures a hard time for you around here Ed.

It's a shame as I used to respect your ability to laugh at yourself whilst conveying an underlying understanding of the point.

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You really are ashamed of Scotland aren't you. (Its not a question)

Do you happen to work for the BBC or are you just having your own little personal competition with them? (That is a question)

Ignoring the facts and saying what suits your agenda ensures a hard time for you around here Ed.

It's a shame as I used to respect your ability to laugh at yourself whilst conveying an underlying understanding of the point.

No I am not ashamed of Scotland mate. Other than that I dont need to say anymore to you.

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The Uk government is guarantor to all UK debt.They are legally obliged to pay all debt no matter what Scotland does.Creditors do not care who pays them what they are owed .The same goes for investors and lenders .If Scotland walks away from their part of the debt all lenders see is a clear debt history.Everything with an obligation to pay has been cleared by the UK government.

Lenders will be battering down doors to invest in Scotland

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SG has already said we will service our per capita proportion of the uk debt (Salmond in one of the debates with darling) which amounts to almost 5bn p.a. *(In exchange for a cu) That's about what we pay at the moment, the unidentified spending that gets included in our block grant which we don't actually get.

We actually overpay on the interest payments. https://archive.today/Fc3is

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The Uk government is guarantor to all UK debt.They are legally obliged to pay all debt no matter what Scotland does.Creditors do not care who pays them what they are owed .The same goes for investors and lenders .If Scotland walks away from their part of the debt all lenders see is a clear debt history.Everything with an obligation to pay has been cleared by the UK government.

Lenders will be battering down doors to invest in Scotland

And how do you think this will be perceived in the rUK, the destination for 70% of Scotland's exports (accounting for approx 25% of Scotland's GDP)? Do you think rUK customers will continue to 'buy Scottish'?

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The debt is denominated in GBP. There is no possibility of default.

Laughing time.

Can Scottish banks print their own notes?

How much is our share? £200billion. Tenners do?

"But you can't just print money, it devalues your currency."

Sorry, what currency would that be?

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If were going it alone, with no debt, we have to defend our currency position.

Anywhere between 25% - 75% of GDP currency resereves to do that, which we wont have.

Scary stuff.

Id rather join the euro if possible

In the short-term, I'd like to join the pound - if they'll have us :D

And you don't need cash to defend a currency. Cash is just paper, and can be printed at will.

What you need is something of value, that you can sell. Usually gold in colour. But if it's black, that will do just as well ;)

There's absolutely nothing to worry about (apart from electors believing any of the guff in the MSM).

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that is a matter of debate. The debt is being repaid by a range of measures. Not just oil revenues.

The big point a lot of folk are missing is that the UK debt ISN'T being repaid by ANY measures. Despite all this austerity it is still increasing at a rate of about £4000 per second.

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