bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"? I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority, a minority that should be punished and after this story they will probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible. What about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists, laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect. So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different? Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page. I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion. The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended. In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified? Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"? I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority, a minority that should be punished and after this story they will be probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible. But what about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists, laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect. So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different? Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page. I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion. The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended. In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified? It's the Record. Ignore it and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Hunt Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I had a wee look online last night and the Mirror had different emphasis. I bet the english Sunday mail is worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 So the pictures are fakes then? It never happened, is that what you're saying? Just because others are worse doesn't mean that it's acceptable to expose yourself in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Pint Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: It's the Retard.Ignore it and move on Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) see below Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aaid said: So the pictures are fakes then? It never happened, is that what you're saying? Just because others are worse doesn't mean that it's acceptable to expose yourself in public. Once again you look daft....I am not saying any of this ... you are pathetic. Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: 10 minutes ago, aaid said: Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, aaid said: So the pictures are fakes then? It never happened, is that what you're saying? Just because others are worse doesn't mean that it's acceptable to expose yourself in public. 3 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: I expected that response from you because it does not matter what I say you will disagree Only need to check the history of your comments to see that. Go back and read my post I stated "I saw the idiots" I also stated what they did was "indefensible" why Don't you read the post properly before typing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: Once again you look daft....I am not saying any of this ... you are pathetic. Pathetic I may be, but at least I know how to use the quote function correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, Half Pint said: Fixed that for you. Bantz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 As usual some go over the top,but nothing that hasn't been done before.I enjoyed my couple of hours at Tr Sq.13 arrests from a near 90000 crowd doesnt reflect too badly on the occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, aaid said: Pathetic I may be, but at least I know how to use the quote function correctly. There is more to life than knowing how to use a quote function, glad you agreed you are pathetic and with the above quote you have just made me realise you are sad as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, bigfathagiz said: There is more to life than knowing how to use a quote function Nothing in life is more important than the quote function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 can we get back on the subject of the post.....this aaid guy is doing my head in with his inane drivel and idiotic responses with no substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, deecie said: Nothing in life is more important than the quote function. I totally agree and i can use it......yessss........ and guess what I aint pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, deecie said: Nothing in life is more important than the quote function. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Foot Soldier Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Dreadful journalism from a dreadful dying paper. Guys have had too much to drink and act daft, where in the world would you get on the front page. That's right in the piece of trash called the Record or Mail. These guys deserve a slagging and firm talking to by their mates. Not nationally ridiculed with massive lifetime issues ( job loss etc ) Honestly makes me sick. These guys meant no disrespect to the fallen soldiers. Quicker that paper goes under the better, Edited November 13, 2016 by Bingo Foot Soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) original question was THIS Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"? I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority, a minority that should be punished and after this story they will probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible. What about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists, laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect. So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different? Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page. I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion. The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended. In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified? Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, bigfathagiz said: original queation was THIS Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"? I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority, a minority that should be punished and after this story they will probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible. What about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists, laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect. So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different? Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page. I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion. The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended. In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified? is there an echo in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 For those of us who weren't there, what actually happened/is being reported that happened ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aaid said: is there an echo in here? Yes...yes yes yes yes.......yes............... Edited November 13, 2016 by bigfathagiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfathagiz Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, bigfathagiz said: Yes...yes yes yes yes.......yes............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Foot Soldier Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The guys in the Square behaved and respected very well the 11am silence and the whole ceremonial part of the day. As day progresses a couple over indulge and revert to drunken oaf mode with various daft behaviour. This includes jumping in the water which earlier had seen poppies put in it during tribute. Also various kilt flashes for camera. Tartan Army leave square and behind leave a T In The Park style mess. Various images of the guys involved on front page. Daft yes, front page humiliation no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Bingo Foot Soldier said: Dreadful journalism from a dreadful dying paper. Guys have had too much to drink and act daft, where in the world would you get on the front page. That's right in the piece of trash called the Record or Mail. These guys deserve a slagging and firm talking to by their mates. Not nationally ridiculed with massive lifetime issues ( job loss etc ) Honestly makes me sick. These guys meant no disrespect to the fallen soldiers. Quicker that paper goes under the better, Well booting a ball around Trafalgar Square at a sensitive time isn't the brightest idea in the world when the world is watching. And as for flashing your clacker bag to all and sundry.... I hate that rancid rag as well but for Christ sake they should be trying to show a bit more savvy and not giving the media any ammunition to do us down. I'm starting to get the sense that amongst the new breed of journosthere is a self loathing anti TA sentiment that are gagging for stories like this to feed their agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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