Guest allyc Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) The only 3Rd rate team from these islands not going to finals.. Edited October 9, 2015 by allyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Too loyal to his chosen men.had chance to inject freshness into team but hasn't taken opportunity. He didn't pick the team I would have for this game, but on reflection only Whittaker, and possibly Marshall turned out to be bad choices. Anyway the point I want to make is that to compare Strachan's win loss ratio with Burley and Levein is a misleading way to analyze success. Aside from the first game, the Georgia game has been the only truly awful performance I can think of. Even the Wales defeat was a freak that wouldn't have happened had Snodgrass not got sent off. Aside from that, our losses have been close run things (often with dubious refereeing) and we've looked a lot more likely to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If strachan is man enough t make changes to his team then we should keep him but I doubt he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Must go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yes absolutely, fail to see where we have improved under Strachan, compare his record to levein and burley and its barely better. Under wgs if your face doesn't fit then forget it ala, Rhodes, Griffiths, mccormack etc, pick a team to win not your chums who have continually failed you. But of course media loves wgs, so doubt any criticism coming soon. Need I remind you of Levein:- Prague - no strikers. Embarrassing. First home game of campaign and barely managed a shot on target V Slovenia 0-0. Woeful. Late late late winner at home to avoid humiliation V Liechtenstein. Need I go on? Under Burley was the booze culture and we were a rabble and suffered humiliation of drubbings not just defeat against Wales. All depressing. Strachan's big failing - which can be rectified if he thinks about it is to come up with a Plan B snd C. That is what ultimately cost us in this campsign in losing in Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I think that Strachan is going to resign after Gibraltar game, the fact that he is remaining "silent", " tightlipped" and "coy" on his future is the giveaway, if he intended on sticking around I think he would have said so when asked. As for who would replace him, oddschecker have Joe Jordan as 4/1 favourite followed by Graeme Souness and Paul Lambert 6/1 joint second favourites. Joe Jordan would be my choice. But I really hope I am wrong about Gordon. I disagree. Just read his post-match comments and although he did remain tight-lipped he explained why saying players were hurting in the dressing room snd felt it would be disrespectful to speak about his future. Seems fair enough. He did later let slip though when saying what they had to do to improve in the next two years. Why would he talk of such things if he planned to walk? Edited October 9, 2015 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The problem any manager will have is a lot of our players aren't good enough technically. Poland looked a class apart from us tonight. It was only our spirit and determination that kept us going. YAWN. What utter pish. Sorry. Are Ireland technically better than us?? No. Look at half the teams that have qualified. Are they technically better than us? No. We have thrown this away by our inability to defend properly and hold onto good positions in games. Ie Warsaw Dortmund and last night. Throw in the woeful performance in Georgia and Strachan's rigidly to plan a and certain players and the that is the reason we are staying at home. Sure, we must start producing a better class of player but that aint the reason we haven't qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Amazes me the amount of people who want to replace the manager once things do not go right, WGS has brought the team forward a long way compared to what we had before, what you cannot change overnight is the technical ability of the players. The natural technical ability is coached out of the guys and this goes right back to when there kids, if you look at most continental teams, they are comfortable on the ball and can stroke it around the park, our guys and the other home nations do not have that ability, if you have younger players with that ability , they get lost in the whole "we must win at all costs" attitude in junior football. Before people go on about our various neighbour's qualifying, lets do a reality check - England - qualified from a group my junior team could have qualified from, once they meet a decent side - out they go Wales - One man team, if Bale is injured or he is stopped playing "continental style" - out they go Northern Ireland - well done to them but qualified from the weakest group, once they meet decent opposition - out they go Ireland - Would not say they were lucky but had some good fortune along the way, will be lucky to get past the play-off - out they go Looking at the 4 nations mentioned + Scotland I can only think of one world class player [bale] , if you work that on squads of 16 players per team, that is one player out of 80, not a very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint4805 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Strachan flatters to deceive. While we can play attractive football particulalry away from home on the counter attack he doesn't exactly have a knack of getting tactics right or grinding out wins. Qualifying for the WC is extremely hard these days given the limited number of places and given the lack of alternatives at the moment I'd be inclined to give him one more campaign and failure to progress should see a new man come in for the Euros. By that point there may be more suitable candidates. We would be kidding ourselves to think we could get anyone managing in the EPL or the likes of Moyes and Sir Alex is pure fantasy. I would be tempted to get rid of McGhee and/or McCall to freshen things up a bit but doubt that will happen. Our best bet would be getting someone who happens to be out of work at the right time or perhaps someone from the SPL who has a track record - perhaps by that point someone like Derek McInnes who also played overseas. Edited October 9, 2015 by Saint4805 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuddy Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 As much as I canny go Forrest he played no bad tonight and didnsome good stuff. When he lost the ball he didn't bother chasing back or anything, just stops to play with his socks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The worst Aberdeen manager in their history who oversaw an 8-1 arse riding from a Czech pub team and a Kent sacked by Motherwell who cuts his hair with a toffee apple and a desk fan are his confidants. I hope Regan puts the prices up to £55 for the next qualifiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Farrington Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We've looked like we're getting there at times, but the fact is we were 4th out the pot & we're 4th in the group. Hard to say we've really made much progress. I don't really care if he stays or goes - the outcome will be that we still won't make Russia. Oh how everyone laughed at wee Bertie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The worst Aberdeen manager in their history who oversaw an 8-1 arse riding from a Czech pub team and a Kent sacked by Motherwell who cuts his hair with a toffee apple and a desk fan are his confidants. I hope Regan puts the prices up to £55 for the next qualifiers I hope 8,000 turn up to the next qualifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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