King Of Paisley Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Before I get shot down in flames I am NOT counting my chickens here by any stretch, but if we did make it to the play-offs then is there a small possibility that we might end up being seeded given some of the nations that are currently sitting in third place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 We'll draw Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 If the groups stayed the same as they are right now (except us replacing Ireland) then I think it would be... Croatia through as best 3rd placed. Would outrank us if they fall out of best place. Or Norway from this group. Seeded: Ukraine (Slovakia would also be above us) Russia (Sweden would also be above us)Turkey (Netherlands would be above us)Israel (Bosnia would also be above us) Unseeded:HungaryScotlandAlbaniaEstonia So as far as I can see we'd be unseeded no matter what unless there are some freak results Happy to be corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotbowls Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Before I get shot down in flames I am NOT counting my chickens here by any stretch, but if we did make it to the play-offs then is there a small possibility that we might end up being seeded given some of the nations that are currently sitting in third place? Seeding is based on the national team coefficients so I doubt we would be seeded if we sneaked 3rd spot. Of the 8 teams currently sitting 3rd in the other groups, 6 of those are above us in the coefficients. Only Estonia and Albania are below us in the coefficients. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/02/25/84/05/2258405_DOWNLOAD.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 At a glance, you're looking at... Turkey/Holland Israel Ukraine Scotland/ RoI/ Poland Estonia/Slovenia Hungary Russia/Sweden Norway/Croatia Denmark/Albania* I think Denmark or Albania will be best runner up at a glance, but it's hard to tell, as not sure who has played bottom seeds once and twice, and if they won. We can only get 17 points, which is 11 for this purpose and Denmark and Albania already have 12 and 11 with no 6th team. Seeds are going to be. Holland/Turkey Ukraine Russia/Sweden And one other, possibly from our group or Croatia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Pretty daunting even if we do get there. Assuming we do and the groups stay the same then would probably take Israel if the push came to the shove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The teams currently in third place are Turkey, Israel, Ukraine, Estonia, Hungary, Russia, Croatia and Albania. The best placed third place team gets automatic qualification and at the moment that would be Croatia. The current FIFA rankings for the remaining teams are: 25. Albania 29. Ukraine 31. Scotland (if we make it) 32. Russia 37. Hungary 46. Israel 46. Turkey (joint) 80. Estonia So going by that I'd say that if we did make the play offs we'd be seeded and would play one of Hungary, Israel, Turkey or Estonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hopefully in a months time we'll be worrying about whether we're seeded or not. Right now, we need to get into that position! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usainboltyarocket Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why on earth should teams be seeded or not for finishing third? Should be an open draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The teams currently in third place are Turkey, Israel, Ukraine, Estonia, Hungary, Russia, Croatia and Albania. The best placed third place team gets automatic qualification and at the moment that would be Croatia. The current FIFA rankings for the remaining teams are: 25. Albania 29. Ukraine 31. Scotland (if we make it) 32. Russia 37. Hungary 46. Israel 46. Turkey (joint) 80. Estonia So going by that I'd say that if we did make the play offs we'd be seeded and would play one of Hungary, Israel, Turkey or Estonia. It's not world rankings that decide seeding it's the UEFA coefficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The best 3rd place is almost certainly going to come from Ukraine's group based on potential points. They already have 12 points with 3 counting games to come. If they sneak second, Spain and Slovakia are both in similar positions. Because it's going to be UEFA coefficient, Sweden/Russia, Denmark and Hungary will almost certainly be seeded. The 4th spot will likely be Norway imo, but could be Slovenia, Turkey or Israel. If Bosnia sneak past Israel it'll be them. We've got no chance, so you'd be looking for Hungary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Found a site that detailed the coefficient. Turkey were lower than us I think. Obviously may change with remaining games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hungary, Norway or Israel. As I said above, lets get there first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Found a site that detailed the coefficient. Turkey were lower than us I think. Obviously may change with remaining games.They were. Then they tanned Holland and we lost to Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binobear Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 We'll be un-seeded as our coefficient is rotten I'm I right in think this means we'll have to play at home first then away in second leg? Not clear on UEFA website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 No. Normal draw will take place. Would obviously hope to be drawn away first of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 We'll be un-seeded as our coefficient is rotten I'm I right in think this means we'll have to play at home first then away in second leg? Not clear on UEFA website. In the past, have they not just made up the rules for play offs depending who ends up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyal Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 UEFA website says first team drawn will be at home first but doesn't say if that will be the seeded or non seeded team although in the past with playoffs they have the non seeded team at home first, us vs England in 99 and us vs Holland in whenever it was. Of course the recent champions league Celtic vs Malmö game, Celtic were the seeded team and played at home first So basically I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why on earth should teams be seeded or not for finishing third? Should be an open draw. Agreed. At the very most seed it based on each teams' position in the "best 3rd place" table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The best 3rd place is almost certainly going to come from Ukraine's group based on potential points. They already have 12 points with 3 counting games to come. If they sneak second, Spain and Slovakia are both in similar positions. Because it's going to be UEFA coefficient, Sweden/Russia, Denmark and Hungary will almost certainly be seeded. The 4th spot will likely be Norway imo, but could be Slovenia, Turkey or Israel. If Bosnia sneak past Israel it'll be them. We've got no chance, so you'd be looking for Hungary. Hungary are ranked 33 in the uefa rankings and we are 24 and Norway and Slovenia are below us too.Is there a different list somewhere? Also, ours can only improve with two victories and others will get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gas Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 When was seeding introduced? In 2004 all teams were pulled out a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 we will get the dutch again. we aint making it to france this time lads. sorry. next.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's not world rankings that decide seeding it's the UEFA coefficient. OK, so based on the current UEFA Coefficient it's as follows: 7. Russia 8. Ukraine 11. Turkey 21. Israel 24. Scotland 33. Hungary 39. Albania 47. Estonia So it's been of Russia, Ukraine, Turkey or Israel with the latter being the only one I'd fancy us against over 2 legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 OK, so based on the current UEFA Coefficient it's as follows: 7. Russia 8. Ukraine 11. Turkey 21. Israel 24. Scotland 33. Hungary 39. Albania 47. Estonia So it's been of Russia, Ukraine, Turkey or Israel with the latter being the only one I'd fancy us against over 2 legs. Where are you getting that list? The one I've got is totally different but might no be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Is it really based on the UEFA country coefficient? Isn't that based on club performances and therefore bears no relation to how good the international team is? Ah - hang on. There is also a UEFA national team coefficient. Ukraine 10th Russia 20th Hungary 21st Turkey 28th Israel 29th Scotland 30th Albania 32nd Estonia 36th Looks like all to play for. Although that was only up to middle of June. Edited September 8, 2015 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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