Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Parklife said: If it was just that, i doubt there'd have been any investigation. It'll be more to do with poppy card displays in the stand, i'd have thought. Rangers should be under investigation too then - all seems a bit lame at this stage to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin4 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 53 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Why is every club in the UK (probably) not being investigated for fans wearing poppies in the stand, the week before? Or is it only something that can't happen at an international game? 2 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Rangers should be under investigation too then - all seems a bit lame at this stage to be fair. Perhaps it's because these "political" events happened at a FIFA regulated competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Admin4 said: Perhaps it's because these "political" events happened at a FIFA regulated competition. Does FIFA have no say over what happens in the normal leagues under the FAs? I wasnt sure if they did or not. Seems a bit strange that there are different rules for different comps in terms of what you can display and what you can't. But not surprised to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Does FIFA have no say over what happens in the normal leagues under the FAs? I wasnt sure if they did or not. Seems a bit strange that there are different rules for different comps in terms of what you can display and what you can't. But not surprised to be fair. FIFA run competition so it's FIFA rules and not the governing bodies or even UEFA. I was under the impression that The IFA and FAW had cleared the poppy displays etc with FIFA in reponse to not having them on shirts/black armbands. I did think it strange that FIFA would allow a poppy display at Windsor Park and a minutes silence if all political symbols etc are banned at a FIFA organised event. To charge Wales for their supporters for wearing a poppy on their jackets is an absolute joke. FFIFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 minute ago, dave said: To charge Wales for their supporters for wearing a poppy on their jackets is an absolute joke. FFIFA Totally agree, and it was that specific point which I in turn thought brought every club in UK into the fold. But if FIFA can do nothing about what the clubs do in domestic comps, then i get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, dave said: To charge Wales for their supporters for wearing a poppy on their jackets is an absolute joke. FFIFA That's not why they've been charged though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Parklife said: That's not why they've been charged though... It is one of the reasons listed on the statement. The incidents, as detailed in the communication from FIFA, under investigation include – Some supporters in the stands wearing the poppy Edited November 24, 2016 by BlueGaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: It is one of the reasons listed on the statement. The incidents, as detailed in the communication from FIFA, under investigation include – Some supporters in the stands wearing the poppy Yes, it's not why they've been charged though. If it was only that, then there is no chance FIFA would be taking action. Let's not live in the Daily Mail land where we sensationalise things, in turn making a mockery of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Parklife said: Let's not live in the Daily Mail land where we sensationalise things, in turn making a mockery of the story. Wasn't trying to do that - was just chatting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 18 minutes ago, Parklife said: Yes, it's not why they've been charged though. If it was only that, then there is no chance FIFA would be taking action. Let's not live in the Daily Mail land where we sensationalise things, in turn making a mockery of the story. Why have they been charged then? The FAW website seems clear enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 27 minutes ago, dave said: Why have they been charged then? The FAW website seems clear enough. Some supporters in the stands wearing the poppy A member of the armed forces was holding a bunch of poppies at the exit of the tunnel . A fans mosaic depicting the poppy was displayed during the anthem of Wales. A banner depicting the poppy was also displayed by the supporters of wales before the match started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Parklife said: Some supporters in the stands wearing the poppy A member of the armed forces was holding a bunch of poppies at the exit of the tunnel . A fans mosaic depicting the poppy was displayed during the anthem of Wales. A banner depicting the poppy was also displayed by the supporters of wales before the match started. So they have been charged with supporters wearing poppies then? Good to clear that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Just now, dave said: So they have been charged with supporters wearing poppies then? Good to clear that up. As i said previously, that is not solely why they have been charged. And if it were only that then they would not have been charged. You bash on going all hysterical Daily Mail if you want, dude. I'll stick to the accurate story of events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Parklife said: Quite obviously it's the latter. The FA and SFA were told if they pressed ahead with it they'd be breaking the rules and would face punishment. I don't quite know why anyone would think anything different. I don't believe they were told they were breaking the rules. They answered a question, and advised that the rules should be observed, and it would be up to the disciplinary committee to determine any breach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Parklife said: As i said previously, that is not solely why they have been charged. And if it were only that then they would not have been charged. You bash on going all hysterical Daily Mail if you want, dude. I'll stick to the accurate story of events WTF has it got to do with the Daily Mail? The FAW have been charged with numerous offences of which one is supporters wearing poppies in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Apparently in 2014 the English FA proposed a rule that all symbols be banned as it was a grey area what should it shouldn't be allowed. Ironic! The charges against Wales and NI seem a bit ridiculous on the face of it. The charges against us and England are fair enough, we asked, they said no, we did it anyway. We'd have been better not asking, and we might have got away with it, like the FAI almost did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, dave said: WTF has it got to do with the Daily Mail? The FAW have been charged with numerous offences of which one is supporters wearing poppies in the stands. That's the line the "daily mail reader type" would choose to pick out. I doubt they'd have charged them for that alone, but it's a good headline to get people frothing at the mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: That's the line the "daily mail reader type" would choose to pick out. I doubt they'd have charged them for that alone, but it's a good headline to get people frothing at the mouth. Exactly. I'm just surprised they didn't phrase it "Wales charged by FIFA due to war veterans in crowd wearing poppies!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: That's the line the "daily mail reader type" would choose to pick out. I doubt they'd have charged them for that alone, but it's a good headline to get people frothing at the mouth. I would have thought any of the charges would have the majority of sane people rolling around the floor in laughter. Everyone knowsFIFA are a disgusting organisation and I would love the Home Nations to tell them to stick their fine up their hole. Won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 54 minutes ago, dave said: I would have thought any of the charges would have the majority of sane people rolling around the floor in laughter. Everyone knowsFIFA are a disgusting organisation and I would love the Home Nations to tell them to stick their fine up their hole. Won't happen though. Yeah, but sane people would see the bigger picture, rather than insinuate that was the charge full stop. The charges overall are still pretty ridiculous, and that point certainly typifies the idiocy of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Yeah, but sane people would see the bigger picture, rather than insinuate that was the charge full stop. But sane people didn't do that though did they? They were discussing other potential charges that may have been relevant, regarding that particular charge. Keep with the programme Magoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 3 hours ago, dave said: To charge Wales for their supporters for wearing a poppy on their jackets is an absolute joke. FFIFA 1 hour ago, BlueGaz said: But sane people didn't do that though did they? Dave did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Parklife said: Dave did. Cool, he is mental !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 hours ago, Parklife said: Dave did. Is it any wonder this board is in a downward spiral with rockets like you spouting crap to anyone who doesn't follow the party line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) What Dave said Edited November 24, 2016 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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