Guest flumax Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 After such a frenetic few weeks it's understandable to want answers immediately but this business is going to take months and move at a snail's pace. The conference season is just beginning and Westminster isn't sitting again until mid October. I'm prepared to give them time to sort this out properly but if the plans fall short or worse then the backlash at the 2015 GE will be even greater than it's going to be already... No, they promised " faster, safer, better" powers. Yes Scotland spoke about getting to work as soon as a yes result came in, I expect a similar time plan, otherwise it's hardly faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J o h n Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Jack Straw calling for laws to be enacted to prevent another referendum. Didn't take long... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4212654.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) No, they promised " faster, safer, better" powers. Yes Scotland spoke about getting to work as soon as a yes result came in, I expect a similar time plan, otherwise it's hardly faster. And a parliamentary motion has been tabled. Any country in which a government could push through radical changes to domestic policy (and with huge constitutional implications) without going through the legislative process would be an arbitrary dictatorship. The 'vow' was a panic measure brought about by that yougov poll, but that doesn't mean that they will renege on it. It'll make the constitutional situation even more farcical, but it requires time and thought - rushed legislation is poor legislation. Edited September 20, 2014 by DonnyTJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 And a parliamentary motion has been tabled. Any country in which a government could push through radical changes to domestic policy (and with huge constitutional implications) without going through the legislative process would be an arbitrary dictatorship. The 'vow' was a panic measure brought about by that yougov poll, but that doesn't mean that they will renege on it. It'll make the constitutional situation even more farcical, but it requires time and thought - rushed legislation is poor legislation. Donny, couldn't give a flying one about the constitutional problems - that is their problem. We are way past the "do it by the rules" shit. They just made it up as they went along so fukk them if they cannot deliver on time. Their problem not ours. (not sure you fully appreciate the anger here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Donny, couldn't give a flying one about the constitutional problems - that is their problem. We are way past the "do it by the rules" shit. They just made it up as they went along so fukk them if they cannot deliver on time. Their problem not ours. (not sure you fully appreciate the anger here). The anger's clear, and it's also blinding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The anger's clear, and it's also blinding. Maybe so Donny - but it is their "Vow" to break...its that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Jack Straw calling for laws to be enacted to prevent another referendum. Didn't take long... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4212654.ece Can't read the whole article but I'd say that's a very risky strategy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlish Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Jack Straw calling for laws to be enacted to prevent another referendum. Didn't take long... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4212654.ece Can the uk push measures through to stop any future referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Can the uk push measures through to stop any future referendum? If they want civil disobedience on the streets.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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