Rossy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Firstly it's not a "random go at Aberdeen" as I already said. All the Scottish teams moan about this including Rangers in the past. Why did they need 6 weeks off? To let injuries calm down? So what you're saying is that these teams need to have all of their players fully rested and fully match fit for these games? And there is no one to play against other than all the other teams also preparing for European football, obviously? These are all just excuses. If there are problems then solve them. If that means summer football or winter shutdowns etc then make the changes. The repetition every season of te same excuses for Scottish teams being pish in Europe's early stages isn't good enough. I'm assuming we all want Scottish football to improve and for our teams to progress in Europe, so we should stop accepting the lazy excuses. You're doing well in ranting about it. Any solutions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rossy said: You're doing well in ranting about it. Any solutions ? What's your solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 24 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: What's your solution? I don't need one, I gave my reasons. It's yer bluenose mate that's ranting illogically. I want him to give answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, Rossy said: I don't need one, I gave my reasons. It's yer bluenose mate that's ranting illogically. I want him to give answers. You're having a rant yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 22 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: You're having a rant yourself. Nothing gets past you, eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 38 minutes ago, Rossy said: I don't need one, I gave my reasons. It's yer bluenose mate that's ranting illogically. I want him to give answers. I think every team should get 4 weeks off and Rangers should get 6 weeks off. We deserve it. Its only fair. Scotlands pride and we should be nurtured back to our rightful position at the top of Scottish football so that we can challenge in Europe, for the good of all in Scotland. So if you all come back 4 weeks early, you can be available to provide us with friendlies when we come back. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, Rossy said: Nothing gets past you, eh ? Well nothing you could come up with Forrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Given that the extended European tournaments are here to stay there is only one solution to this for Scottish clubs, win more games in the tournaments to get the coefficient up and get us out of the early qualifying rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: I think every team should get 4 weeks off and Rangers should get 6 weeks off. We deserve it. Its only fair. Scotlands pride and we should be nurtured back to our rightful position at the top of Scottish football so that we can challenge in Europe, for the good of all in Scotland. So if you all come back 4 weeks early, you can be available to provide us with friendlies when we come back. Makes sense. I think that's only fair and reasonable for all concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Rossy said: You're doing well in ranting about it. Any solutions ? I don't know if they're solutions but they could try planning the pre-season more effectively. If theres a 6 week break, they only need to give the players 2 weeks off but with an exercise and diet plan. They can go somewhere sunny for their training camp and quite easily find competitive type games if they go to a place that has summer football. Think that answers most of your excuses. Also if they have a squad then not every player will be in peak condition at any point. So use the squad instead of just the same 16 players. Then you can let injured players recover properly. None of this is difficult but our teams continually make it look like it's feckin rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 hour ago, BlueGaz said: I think every team should get 4 weeks off and Rangers should get 6 weeks off. We deserve it. Its only fair. Scotlands pride and we should be nurtured back to our rightful position at the top of Scottish football so that we can challenge in Europe, for the good of all in Scotland. So if you all come back 4 weeks early, you can be available to provide us with friendlies when we come back. Makes sense. Funnily enough we organised that for ourselves this summer. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 27 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: I don't know if they're solutions but they could try planning the pre-season more effectively. If theres a 6 week break, they only need to give the players 2 weeks off but with an exercise and diet plan. They can go somewhere sunny for their training camp and quite easily find competitive type games if they go to a place that has summer football. Think that answers most of your excuses. Also if they have a squad then not every player will be in peak condition at any point. So use the squad instead of just the same 16 players. Then you can let injured players recover properly. None of this is difficult but our teams continually make it look like it's feckin rocket science. What kind of player will be at their best getting only 6 weeks off in every 156 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 hours ago, deecie said: What kind of player will be at their best getting only 6 weeks off in every 156 weeks? Ryan '50 caps' Jack of course. The guy's destined for things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 hours ago, deecie said: What kind of player will be at their best getting only 6 weeks off in every 156 weeks? Don't confuse him with facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 hours ago, deecie said: What kind of player will be at their best getting only 6 weeks off in every 156 weeks? Try reading the 2nd last paragraph in my post where I point this out. I agree. That's why you have a squad. Also who says the players can only play when they are at their peak? Utterly ridiculous point you've failed to make here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 hour ago, RenfrewBlue said: Try reading the 2nd last paragraph in my post where I point this out. I agree. That's why you have a squad. Also who says the players can only play when they are at their peak? Utterly ridiculous point you've failed to make here. I'll have to pass on your kind offer. Thanks for your input though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 hour ago, OLAS said: Ryan '50 caps' Jack of course. The guy's destined for things. Yes, I've heard he may open a hat shop in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 hours ago, deecie said: I'll have to pass on your kind offer. Thanks for your input though. So you have nothing to add? No back up for your position? I thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybuc16 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Sensible solution is something we all said again and again. 16 team league, possibly a winter break? Get finished end of april, cup final at start of may, get at least 4 or 5 weeks break before pre season. The teams getting very little breaks is partially down to uefa inviting anyone and everyone into the europa n champions league to elimanate the riff raff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 6 hours ago, daddybuc16 said: Sensible solution is something we all said again and again. 16 team league, possibly a winter break? Get finished end of april, cup final at start of may, get at least 4 or 5 weeks break before pre season. The teams getting very little breaks is partially down to uefa inviting anyone and everyone into the europa n champions league to elimanate the riff raff. How are you paying for a 30 game league season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 On 01/07/2016 at 8:02 PM, RenfrewBlue said: Try reading the 2nd last paragraph in my post where I point this out. I agree. That's why you have a squad. Also who says the players can only play when they are at their peak? Utterly ridiculous point you've failed to make here. I give you Chic Charnley. Possibly was never at his peak, but what a player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Cove_Sheep said: How are you paying for a 30 game league season? The Blue Pound. Rangers B, Rangers U21 and Rangers 19s and the weans team all automatically promoted to the SPFL Premiership. Get shot of the sub-4000:- Hamilton, Thistle, Ross County and Inverness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Hypothetically starting our season in mid July or earlier is a great idea. We may see a difference in the reality of this, as I suspect squads will be a long way from complete, as it just doesn't fit the football calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 6 hours ago, OLAS said: I give you Chic Charnley. Possibly was never at his peak, but what a player! Pretty much proves my point. Some players (Sturridge) obviously think they need to be fully fit to perform at all. Others are more realistic and will actually just get on with their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 6 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Pretty much proves my point. Some players (Sturridge) obviously think they need to be fully fit to perform at all. Others are more realistic and will actually just get on with their job. I'm not sure that anyone knows what point you're trying to make, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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