Squirrelhumper Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I find Duckenfield's pathetic pleas for sympathy to be absolutely disgusting, and incredibly insulting to the families. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) As far as i am concerned she has got off lightly. Even if thatcher was alive are Prime Ministers exempt from prosecution ? I suspect like many others that the hillsborough cover up came from the top and would like to see this shown in court if true. Edited March 16, 2015 by Robroysboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I find Duckenfield's pathetic pleas for sympathy to be absolutely disgusting, and incredibly insulting to the families. I did notice a thread of self pity throughout his testimony. I think people would be able to empathise a bit more if it hadn't taken 25 years for him to make any sort of apology, and if he hadn't started and continued the cover up and campaign to blacken the name of the victims. People would clearly be angry and upset at what happened regardless, but if someone was out of their depth and made some serious misjudgements, but owned up, apologised and tried to put it right, it might have made this whole thing a lot easier. I'm sure for the families etc this is far too little, far too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I did notice a thread of self pity throughout his testimony. I think people would be able to empathise a bit more if it hadn't taken 25 years for him to make any sort of apology, and if he hadn't started and continued the cover up and campaign to blacken the name of the victims. People would clearly be angry and upset at what happened regardless, but if someone was out of their depth and made some serious misjudgements, but owned up, apologised and tried to put it right, it might have made this whole thing a lot easier. I'm sure for the families etc this is far too little, far too late. He's only 'sorry', because he's been caught. He didn't kill these people, or want them to die, but his incompetence led to the sequence of events that happened. He then spent 25 years using his position.... with the protection of the police authorities and highest echelons of UK government....to lie about events, smear the victims, and put the familes through what must have been utter hell. In many countries, such as Italy and France....where legally, no death can be termed an 'accident'....he would have been convicted and jailed. Instead in the UK, he was allowed to keep his job with full pay and retire with a comfortable pension. He's now going through a circle of pathetic self-pity because finally he's being publicly confronted with the truth. Apparently he can't stand to hear the word 'Hillsborough'.... I'm sure the families concerned have a huge amount of sympathy for him. What a detestable creature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm not keeping up to speed, but can this inquest lead to criminal prosecutions? As has been mentioned, perjury in the previous inquests springs to mind. Even if it is token jail time, it would go a long way to help ease the suffering of families and friends. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The match commander has admitted his complicity https://archive.today/7d6zM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie huggins Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 obviously a deal has been done give the scousers what they want to hear and we wont prosecute you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 obviously a deal has been done give the scousers what they want to hear and we wont prosecute you I doubt if it's that simple... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 So is his admission not now corporate manslaughter or are plod exempt? Or said as an individual he has no corporate liability? Mate of mine has given evidence and says he's a cagey swine. Conceding some points that he knows he has no option but not recalling other points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Duckenfield's finished giving evidence. A discredited, morally bankrupt individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Duckenfield's finished giving evidence. A discredited, morally bankrupt individual. I would like to see him financially bankrupt, why should he keep his police pension. Hoping that he is answerable to the law, to show that everyone is responsible for their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It will never happen as they will do what they have done since 1989 and cover it up and he will get to keep his pension along with the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It will never happen as they will do what they have done since 1989 and cover it up and he will get to keep his pension along with the rest. So sad if thats true. Where's the justice in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I would like to see him financially bankrupt, why should he keep his police pension. Hoping that he is answerable to the law, to show that everyone is responsible for their actions. Well remember he was conveniently medically retired prior to his police misconduct hearing, so away on full pension, in 1991 I think it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The way duckenfield and others have treated the families is an absolute disgrace and they shouldnt get away with it but like i said they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The way duckenfield and others have treated the families is an absolute disgrace and they shouldnt get away with it but like i said they will. Time will tell but I think there will be a massive backlash if that is the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Time will tell but I think there will be a massive backlash if that is the outcome. For that reason, I think the authorities will have to act. Duckenfield's belated admission should see him convicted, for lying under oath in the previous inquiries at the very least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 For that reason, I think the authorities will have to act. Duckenfield's belated admission should see him convicted, for lying under oath in the previous inquiries at the very least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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