stevenmcn

There would be no point of a short term appointment. The qualifying campaign is already close to a shambles after just 2 games, we need a permanent appointment asap so that we can hopefully rescue what's left. The next game against Cyprus is already a must win, we can't afford another slip up. But, aye, Gemmill wouldn't surprise me.

A wee navy and white version of this could be no bad. https://www.lovellsoccer.co.uk/Football-Replica-Shirts/Umbro/Jamaica-2018-Home-S-or-S-Replica-Football-Shirt-Yellow/size_M?gclid=CjwKCAjwkcblBRB_EiwAFmfyy77qEdgQr2Bd0_PcwAVLvjKSrxHPli6K7zCo5OHduaI-KCDc0znTuBoCd1IQAvD_BwE

Just think back about 14 months ago when very few cared if he picked us over England and claimed he probably wasn't commited to Scotland cause he had refused a call up.

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Considering that Vogts had to basically build a squad from scratch and got to a play off and also the fact that barring one good campaign in the last 20 yrs, we've been gash, was it really that much of a failure?

I can't believe people support the idea of giving a guy with no coaching experience the job. Genuine question, but is he even interested in coaching/management, does he have his coaching badges? The only reason it's not laughable is that I'd rather see that happen than have McLeish manage one more single game.

So, are we going to pick our team on what players "have done". Well we're going to have a very short list. Robertson and Fraser definitely make that list. McTominay probably makes that list too, he looked a class above when he came on, can't believe he didn't start either game. Where do we go after that? You can't say McGregor has been great only for Celtic and dismiss him cause of the quality of the league, then say Forrest just hasn't been utilised well for Scotland. For me there's no real difference between the two. The bottom line is having a coach who doesn't know how to utilize his players. Add to that the amount of call offs and retirements we've had in the last 12 months and it's going to lead to another miserable future for the national team.

You're probably right about the blazers and their decision making, but I can't understand why historical results against a poor opposition are in any way relevant. Basically what some people are saying is that as long as we beat San Marino at least 2-0 away then it's acceptable, just forget how poor they are. Incidentally Luxembourg beat them 3-0 away last year, just saying.

The point is that we have decent players, just don't have a manager who knows what to do with them. To say McGregor and Armstrong are hopeless us just a stupid comment.

I said something similar the other day. Between the performances, the call offs and retirements over the last 12 months, something definitely stinks.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that we have the player with the second highest amount of assists in the EPL behind Eden Hazard on the pitch right now. So is it the players or the tactics/manager?

I'm sure Kazakhstan would disagree.

I'd say we're a bit weak in CDM too. McGregor can play there but you only have to look at Israel's first goal to see that he probably shouldn't be playing there. McTominay hardly kicks a ball at Man U and the jury is still very much out on McDonald at international level. Personally I'd play Mulgrew there rather than in central defence. He's played there before and is reasonably decent with the ball at his feet. It's just a pity McArthur quit cause we could be doing with him. It's a position that's going to need addressed cause last night's formation won't work against better teams.

So we could win our group, get a home draw and get rid of McLeish in one night? Sounds too good to be true.

Not directed at you personally, but of course it's must win, it's Israel at home FFS. Great result tonight, but I fear it just papers over the cracks. Hope I'm wrong, but seen it before

I thought that 18 months ago. Seen him play against Partick Th at the end of last season when he was at Aberdeen on loan and he stuck out like a sore thumb.

Lol, so just to clarify, apart from goalkeeper and left back, we're a bit shit. Think we're going to have to petition FIFA to be allowed a 5-5-4 line up. 😂😂😂

Apologies if you have explained it before mate, I must have missed it 👍. I do think you touch on our defensive issues by touching on how your midfield perform. I feel our midfield very rarely take control in matches, which isn't going to help whether you've 3 or 4 at the back. Yes, we do lose a fair few goals at set pieces which isn't down to midfield, but on the whole our central defenders simply aren't good enough or playing regularly at a high enough level. You can't just say they're all shit so just play more of them to compensate. What if we did that at the other end and just played 3 centre forwards cause Fletcher and McBurnie are crap? Anyway enjoying the debate. 👍

Maybe you can explain to us why you think a back 3 will work instead of giving us reasons why a back 4 doesn't. For the record, I'm not against a back 3. If we had the players, a tactically efficient manager and intelligence to play it then great, right now we don't.

Still not convinced with your back 3 obsession, but can't disagree with much else here.

McGregor Tierney McKenna. Mulgrew. Robertson McDonald. McGinn McGregor. Armstrong. Fraser Russell

McGregor Tierney. McKenna. Mulgrew. Robertson McGregor. McGinn Paterson. Christie. Fraser Russell To be fair, it's not the worse eleven from what was picked.

Fair play to you mate. Some of your ideas are a wee bit left field, and I'm not going to say I agree with them, but at least they're something different and you've put a bit of thought into it. We've been doing the "tried and tested" thing for years now and have went backwards. Unfortunately, right now we don't have many coaches capable of something a wee bit different, so we'll be either parking the bus, or lumping it up to a target man for the foreseeable future. Besides, I've seen way worse ideas from others on here.

Steven Fletcher 😮😮😡. Is that the bottom of the barrel being scraped? Nothing really positive at all in that squad.

Definitely. He's got the skills, just needs refined under a good coach.