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absolutely not you've not differentiated anything, you just state no opinions or topics should be banned, then folk give opinions and topics as examples and you say they don't count. That's not coherent.

What about any topic which is not true and espousing it causes harm, i.e. false accusations. You said it isn't to do with this, but then make a statement where it is part of the group. It's very unclear what you are trying to say. Can you give an explanation what free speech absolutism actually means in practice. How about the opinion that someone is a criminal or fraudster when they aren't?

I defined what I meant by Freedom of speech at the beginning of the conversation and it is exactly what i said if it is in the absolute form. It's good to see you aren't a free speech absolutist then. We have no further business it seems.

It's not a case of specific subjects or beliefs, it's a case of categories for instance libel/slander, things that fall under the harm principle. Like saying this product contains no nuts when it does. Harrassment. Inciting violence. Intimidation, threats etc.

Absolute free speech has never existed. In where Free Speech means the right to say anything you want at anytime to anyone anywhere without government getting involved. Even the folk who wrote the first amendment didn't see it like that as evidenced by legislation written by them with restrictions etc. These conversations were had centuries ago and written about in the intervening decades. However folk like to bring it up again like children drinking for the first time oblivious to the fact their parents did the same and so did their parents.

They tased someone for asking a question to John Kerry if he was in Skull and Bones. Fuck if I could be bothered you could recite dozens of incidences that counter that. It's easier to just state that absolutist binary positions almost never occur in reality.

A bunch of pro-palestinian protestors have been arrested in the same manner. 6 folk were arrested from a pro-palestinian group 2 days ago under section 35 as well. Not a peep. Of course as soon as it happens to Tommy Robinson (Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) it suddenly becomes a problem for a sub-set of people. Whether folk are victims of being led by the nose by media( i just read headlines then decide to opine on complex subjects) or perhaps it's a case of tribalism (it's only bad when it happens to my side) who knows.

The argument is being framed in a disingenuous way by you Malcolm, no one is arguing about who can be "out in public". He was already served a section 35 dispersal order. A law which has been in place for a decade or so. He was then arrested for breaching it. No idea what his parole conditions are from his last conviction where he was in danger of collapsing a trial against child abusers. The guy is a serial agitator , no idea if that gets taken into account, need more information i guess. It isn't a free country in that anyone can go anywhere at anytime whenever they want and never has been. So again just a made up argument. Now whether he should have been served a dispersal order will depend on circumstances that will come out in the trial and we'll be better placed to judge that. "It's a free country" isn't even an argument.

Ali fought Inoki a wrestler it's not anything new.

For some reason I thought Sheridan was phone hacked so they knew he had "done" something but couldn't reveal the source hence all the opaqueness around it.

this sort of sums it up

"Babies in incubators" was what I thought of when i heard of the beheadings. There's be a total slaughter though, I try and not read much details these days. There's now another slaughter ready to start as well. None of the pressures/circumstances leading up to the last week being addressed though. It's been what 20 odd years since the last real attempt?

Aye it's been total depraved barbarity. The slow change from a "secular" movement who targeted militrary targets to this current operation is terrible. I'm sure there are many reasons for it, but it's just so fucking wrong.

Aye Scotland is just meant to get wetter over the next few decades, great.

Looks great, glad everything worked out!

He was in government for like 7 years. I'm sure he is correct, but what was done about it when he actually had power rather than soundbites when he is trying to get it back.

So i went and looked there ater reading this to be compliant it seems "What is a Euro 4 petrol car? Euro 4 applied to all new cars – including petrols – registered from 1 January 2006. " is the standard, i for sure thought my ancient motor wouldn't pass but it seems to.

My mates son managed to get in at the UK championships as well (1500m). Still really young and this is his first full season training properly. It's so competitive. I've also been going to the races in summer and cross country in winter for years now. So crazy seeing all these folk I saw race as children coming through. The amount of work done setting up all these races and by basically volunteers is crazy. Whole infrastructure would fall apart without it.

I have a Russian mate who said he was either killed or faked his death. Highly doubts this is an accident.

He was a member of Hart and signed that daft letter in 2021 as did the guy he is speaking to. https://archive.ph/mo75l This one. I know him from spending a lot of time reading up on covid Anyway he's moved from epidemiology onto criminology now. I could follow the maths I didn't follow the criminal case. So I have no idea what's going on there , i'm just laughing cause the "contrarians" pop up taking the opposite view , i see he is talking about climate change being a psyops as well. I'm glad you did your due dilligence though. I'm away to get on with life before i get killed by George Soros.

Change in conditions. Live longer, overweight. Different diets now. If I had to guess if you controlled for age factors that would eliminate a large proportion of the difference. No point listening to me though i'm not a biostatistician.