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It's the shy no voters that have done it. Just like the shy Tories that voted in major in 1992. The pollsters had no previous vote to compare them with.
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Lowest Low Ever
Jie Bie replied to kumnio's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
How can any of us sing that we can "rise now and be a nation again"? Those are more than just words in a song, at least to me. Sorry for the negativity. -
Lowest Low Ever
Jie Bie replied to kumnio's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
The England game will be horrendous now. Don't know if I can face it. Certainly won't be able to sing the anthem. -
Why are BT so confident despite the high turnout? Have the missing million voted no?
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Turnout
Jie Bie replied to Tartan Tarantula's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
I really, really, really hope you are right. Will be more than happy to buy you a pint or a dram before the Georgia game if we get 60%+ -
The Flow Of People To Yes
Jie Bie replied to Dillinger's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Seriously? If that is a genuine post from someone who woke up this morning a No voter I really will start to believe we can do this! -
Herald Front Page. Subtle.
Jie Bie replied to Al1978's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Compared to what we could have been seeing this morning it's pretty tame. No hangman's noose or "last man out turn off the lights" on any of the papers. I know the media are biased, but at least we don't have any front pages which are completely offensive to half of the electorate. -
The polling companies are supposed to account for that - they've been in this business for quite some time and are supposed to know a fair bit about it! I'm just hoping that all these people who have never voted, or don't normally bother to vote, aren't making their way to the polling stations today just to endorse the status quo.
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The Flow Of People To Yes
Jie Bie replied to Dillinger's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Energy sector. Lot's of supporters in both camps, in fact one of my workmates is off today manning his local polling station for Yes. Someone who voted No has told me he thinks Yes will win. I told him not to get my hopes up! -
The Flow Of People To Yes
Jie Bie replied to Dillinger's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Nearly everyone I know outside of work is voting Yes. My work seems to be split 50/50. Quite a few of the guys who were planning on voting No a few months ago have told me that they've already voted Yes, or will be doing so tonight. In the words of one of my workmates, "what done it for me was them continually telling us we can't run our own country". -
How Did You Get To Yes/?
Jie Bie replied to mariokempes56's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
As a teenager I supported Labour and believed that Scotland couldn't afford to go it alone. Not an unusual point of view for someone who grew up under the shadow of Ravenscraig being shut down. However Imoved abroad for a few years after Uni, where I found myself mixing with folk from Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Australia, Canada, New Zealand (and England!). One day when I was back in Scotland it was like a light being turned on. I finally realised that if all these other countries could do it then so could we. I'd already decided that New Labour were never getting my vote again after the Iraq war, so I joined the SNP and have spent the last few years converting as many of my friends and family as possible to the Yes side. -
Another two Yes votes here! Our polling station was pretty busy at 7.30am...
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Dimbleby Interviews: Brown & Salmond
Jie Bie replied to exile's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Would have made for an easier victory IMO if the UK already been in the Euro. -
Dimbleby just said Gordon Brown is offering home rule! He's a backbench MP FFS...
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Next Poll
Jie Bie replied to Clyde1998's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
But how many of the householders who plan on voting know (or simply don't know yet) told them Yes to get rid of them? Maybe this is why both campaigns are convinced they are winning - lots of people are telling the No Thanks and Yes Scotland crews what they want to hear! -
Next Poll
Jie Bie replied to Clyde1998's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Are you talking about the Ipsos Mori poll released two weeks before the election? It did accurately predict what share of the vote the SNP would get for the constituency and regional list votes, however it also predicted Labour would do better than they actually did, in particular their prediction for Labour share of the vote in the regional list was significantly higher than what they ended up getting (32% vs 26%). It's worth looking back at the final poll released on the eve of the 2011 election. YouGov predicted: SNP 42/35 LAB 35/32 CON 11/13 LIB 8/7 The final scores were: SNP 45/44 LAB 32/26 CON 14/12 LIB 8/5 So they underestimated the SNP's regional vote by 9%! They overestimated the Labour vote by similar amounts. I hope and pray that the pollsters are somehow vastly underestimating the Yes vote in the same way! -
What's Your Independence Whisky?
Jie Bie replied to thewelk's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
I've got a bottle of Laga 16 sitting unopened since I was given it as a gift. Hoping I will get the chance to taste it this Friday! -
Bbc Exit Poll
Jie Bie replied to wheres the pies's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
Exit polls are particularly effective in UK general elections as they can deploy pollsters at those 50-100 or so marginal constituencies who decide the final result, which is a very different scenario to Thursday's vote. -
Next Poll
Jie Bie replied to Clyde1998's topic in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere
In theory it provides a check against a big business controlled media. In theory... -
As others have said, the Sun loves to be seen as "wot won it". The reality of this means they tend to bide their time and back whoever looks like winning. From that perspective, them coming out for Yes (if it happens) should be seen as a positive, despite the fact many of us choose not to buy it.
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Here's another nail in the No campaign's coffin: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/boris-johnson-vows-to-resist-scots-tax-devolution-1-3505113 For those of you who have missed it, Boris has just been selected to run as MP for the safe Tory seat of Uxbridge & South Ruislip.