EddardStark

so many angry people on this thread. I have watched 60 minutes of TV in two days.

Such a lovely Queen's Speech. Tradition runs deep in our family.

I don't want Ashley anywhere near Rangers

wouldn't it be magic if things worked out well though.? We can but dream. That's what fans do isn't it?Now my guess is you don't want things to work out well. Hence the prophet of doom sermon from the mount.

Mark and Neville Chamberlain. Port Vale.

Another interesting report in on the BBC, especially this bit. "When RIFC held an open offer to existing shareholders last September, another associate of Ashley - Stephen Mucklow - was set to underwrite it. A draft RNS statement to the Stock Exchange was prepared to that effect, only for the underwriting offer to be withdrawn less than a week before the open offer. On the day of the offer, Ashley also announced that he would not participate in the fundraising, which Rangers required for working capital. The offer raised a little over £3m. Ashley subsequently spent around £400,000 acquiring Hargreave Hale's stake in RIFC." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30571648

its could be a relatively low investment to eventually expose his brand to CL football.

Decent post from a Rangers fan on what might happen in the next few weeks. "We wont just slide into administration. Ashley will continue with these loans, securing assests as he does. My thoughts are that he saw how we all stupidly danced to Charles Green's, and to an extent Craig Whyte's tunes and thought that the same would happen again. What he didn't expect was that the fans would have had enough and the numbers of those attending would dwindle, along with the amount of merchandise being purchased. He is trying to secure as much as RFC as possible, the best way for him to do this is by increasing his shareholding. That has failed so it will now be loans (mortgages really) against the assests of the club, like what he did before. I believe his end game originally was to make as much money out of merchandise whilst starving the club of the money. He thought, and it is quite a reasonable thought, that all Rangers fans would be too stupid or blindly loyal to see what he was doing and saw an easy buck. None of this "expand Sports Direct" - he wanted to make money from Rangers fans. His plan hasn't worked so now he is on a mission to make whatever money he can. I believe he plans to do this by securing as much of Rangers as he can, and when Rangers can not afford to repay his loans, administration will be inevitable, unless someone is willing to pay off the loans - don't see that happening as it wont help the situation. Again, we're slightly wiser than before and I don't see the powers at be allowing the board to bring in their own administrators again. That was a huge mistake last time and in hind sight I cannot see how it was allowed to happen. Ashley, with large debts owed to him, will become the main creditor throughout administration, and if a CVA is agreed it will be upto him to agree it. He gets some money, he hopefully then s off. If the company is liquidated, he still owns the assests, and as before, he is bound to accept the best offer for them when someone else takes over. That or he wants to cling on to the assets and rent them back to us - but by doing that he is risking us going elsewhere - new training ground, stadium, who knows. It will be a case of starving him of cash again, eventually he would have to sell up. The less money that goes to them now, the quicker this will happen. Where we have to be careful is if and when someone comes in to buy the club. There is likely to be a lot more people interested this time around as there is no big tax case looming, and we as fans have a duty to see that no more wigs or Wigs get in. If it means blocking roads to stop them getting to meetings then so fecking be it!! It's hopefully less likely now without the big tax case - we weren't buyable"

Jim Bett. I hated him.

Jeezo,not much Christmas cheer in here tonight. Rangers fans have sent a clear message to this regime by not buying ST's. The AGM seems to have been a total PR disaster for this board.Personally I would rather fans took control. There are two groups with currently running schemes to secure shares. Its good to see the SFA doing their job. Next big moment is the 8m share issue. Lets see how that goes.You are getting hysterical guys. Chill out.

Radio 4s PM programme devoted their show last night to a doctors account of his time in a hospital in Allepo. The injuries from the impact of barrel bombs just too horrific to describe.

its not representative. I understand why you do it. Run with the pack and all that.

I have a feeling things will work out in the longer term. Might be some short term pain. I am comfortable with the SFA telling Ashley to do one.The SFA thankfully are doing their job

have a look on bbc report. Its on there. The King consortium offer is still on the table. Ashley will try to loan more against the assets and run the club through proxy. The SFA have him up for this on a charge, hearing to be held end of Jan.

most are fine with the decision. A proposal is on the table . End game in sight.

I would say the largest Rangers forum supports the SFA announcement.

there are offers on the table to invest in the club, with conditions of course.

there are plenty of options.

I wasn't being serious

More info on dealings at Rangers will be published by SOS today. This time to do with Charles Green.

You can get 5/1 on Rangers to win the league. Steam in.

I was referring to the families choosing the charities. In time this can have a very positive impact on those who have lost loved ones.

this is what Christmas is all about

Ditto... imagine that happening these days... :-)) my mum always told me I deserved it.

My mothers weapon of choice was taking a shoe to my head :wink2: