Chripper

Aberdeen attacking player who can play on either wing, behind the striker or up top. He came on against Celtic in the League Cup final. First time I saw him, he's certainly a box of tricks. I was impressed. Let's hope he can string a few matches together for Aberdeen as he does look good.

That wasn't point scoring, that was me shutting down someone who tried to point score.

I haven't really been here long, but I'm starting to think that generally this is a place for petty point scoring. For example, I said: "I wonder when Kieran Tierney will finally grow up and join a top league", this was viewed as a dig at the kid. When in actual fact it was an obvious question of when in his career will he decide that he's bored of playing against English Championship standard players and want to play against the cream of the crop. I also said" "Age doesn't bring maturity", which is true, and was aimed at the human condition. Again, this was thought of as a dig at the lad. Hell, there's still one person trying to score points off my preference towards three-at-the-back. Yeah... not many points will ever be scored off me. God loves a trier, though.

I think the only way Tierney is going to unlock his potential is by playing against top players, on a weekly basis. I think, as much as he loves Celtic, there's going to be a breaking point in his career when he decides that he's bored of playing against free transfers. Maybe not, though, look at Paul McStay.

Not really. It was a rhetorical question of when/if Kieran Tierney will decide to pit himself against prime football players. If I phrased it like: "I don't think Kieran Tierney is capable of playing in a top league", or "I'm starting to doubt that Kieran Tierney is emotionally capable of going up against elite footballers on a weekly basis", those would be a dig.

So, you don't want any of our players to play in an elite league? Fair enough. Personally, I want as many Scottish players as possible to be playing either in Italy, Spain, Portugal, England, Germany or France. But that's just me.

Definitely. Just look at Robertson, he's come on leaps and bounds in such a short space of time. Actually, I want him as an anchorman. Pay attention.

Who's having a dig at Tierney? Maybe you should re-read what I wrote. "Age doesn't bring maturity." is a broad statement about human beings, in general. And it's a true statement. If age brought maturity and intelligence then the "elders" would be at the pinnacle of theology and science, etc. Now, if I said that "Tierney doesn't mature with age" then you would certainly have a leg to stand on, but I didn't, so you don't

Meh. Age doesn't necessarily bring maturity.

Nah, I didn't tell him to grow up, I said I wonder when he will.

To test himself against better players and bigger teams. He'll playing against free transfers, etc, week in and week out. Sooner or later there'll be a breaking point where he feels the need to test himself against better players. Only Celtic fans will want him to remain in Scotland.

And to circumvent the typo in the heading.... "Andew" is the nickname that his mum gives him.

The lad isn't just an example for any young footballer that gets rejected by a football club, he's also an example for anyone who gets rejected in life. The rise of Robertson is incredible, from being rejected by Celtic, then playing part time for Queens Park and stacking shelves, to Dundee United and then on to Liverpool and shining for them and for Scotland. It's quite remarkable. The Liverpool fans were skeptical about buying a Scottish player from Hull, but he's now a folk hero at Liverpool. He's a model pro and I truly hope that his professionalism will rub off on his fellow Scottish internationals, both young and old.

A study by analysts the CIES Football Observatory places the former Queen’s Park and Dundee United defender third in a list of players from the English, French, German, Spanish and Italian top-flight leagues whose value has gone sky-high since the beginning of the season. Robertson is now worth a reported £72.1 Million. I know that, in essence, this means very little, but at least we can say that we now have a player who is venturing into "world class" territory. I wonder when Kieran Tierney will finally grow up and join a top league.

I think so, too. The OF avarice over the past few decades wouldn't be tolerated in any other sport, or perhaps any other league. The thing is, the importance of the OF have been overestimated from all quarters. Yes, they brought it extra money from Sky, etc, but as you said, the OF got the lions share. Agreed 100% Scottish football is a strange thing, but it does sum up the world at large, where the few outweigh the masses. If the masses banded together then change would happen, but in reality, it will never happen.

For lack of a better word, Celtic (and Rangers) have raped Scottish football for decades. They're the ones who have sucked it dry, pandering to bigots, etc. I think it's about time they gave something back. There's no glory in winning a race with no competitors.

The weird thing is that I was just about to post exactly the same thing, word for word.

Statistics can be skewed to fit any agenda: PSG have won the Ligue 1 five times out of the past six years - 83.33% You mentioned Bayern Munich. They've won the Bundesliga six times out of the past eight years. 75% Not much of a difference. And as I said, seems like I have to repeat it. The Old Firm dominance has killed Scottish football and the Scottish national team. The domestic dominance in France, Germany and Italy hasn't.

No, Chripper doesn't find it odd that Bayern Munich or Juventus still celebrate titles... as the other Italian and German clubs have disposable money, can buy players and produce superstars from their youth academies. Scottish football is stifled because of Celtic's dominance whereas Italian and German football is thriving in spite of the Bayern and Juventus dominace. You left out PSG, by the way. Again, this isn't stifling French football at an international level. It's about time the Old Firm gave something back to Scottish football after all the decades of acting like a couple of Vampires.

True. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade or anything, but the anti-competitiveness of the top level of Scottish football really is starting to be clawing. Other countries may be as anti-competitive (Germany, France, etc) but at least their teams have money to spend. The sooner the Old Firm put money back into Scottish football, the sooner it'll begin to show signs of health... but then again, they've never wanted that in the first place.

Can I put Celtic's achievements into some sort of perspective? There are only two teams in Scotland that have any transfer funding, Celtic are one of them. Celtic spent £9m on a striker in the summer. No other team in Scotland apart from Rangers is able to spend £100k on a single player. Celtic should be dominating Scottish football. I'm not sure why Celtic fans and players celebrate as wildly as they do, they celebrate like they've overcome the odds and achieved something that wasn't expected. I find it interested and rather odd. Celtic can only be judged when they're playing in Europe and playing against teams with disposable money and can actually, ya know, buy players.

It's a weird one. On Final Score the summarizer said that McBurnie scored it, but it came up as an OG. On SofaScore it has McBurnie as the goal scorer... so your guess is as good as mine.

Goal for Jack Harper and Oliver McBurnie.

We actually scored both goals when we switched to 4-4-2, but shhhhhh…. don't tell anyone.