harrystarfish

Na, you could maybe argue that a coalesced hive mind shows intelligence, but individually ants are as clever as individual neutrons.

A decrease of 22% luminosity seems quite a lot considering that exo-planets usually reduce the apparent output by less than 1% if i'm not mistaken. Even if it's artificial, it may not designate intelligence, it could be some kind of massive-scale equivalent of a coral reef or ant-hill, a complex structure built over time by simple creatures or processes repeating the same tasks for millennia. I believe SETI have applied to to focus their observations to that part of the sky following this too, will be interesting to see their results. What would be more scary - a Dyson sphere half-built or one half-destroyed ?

Aye we did, we got beaten in the race for qualification. You think people are on here complaining about a single 2-2 result?

Unfortunately the exact reason I didn't book Gibraltar is why I'm glad I'm not there now - it would have been unbearable being there if we were already out. Gutted that came to pass. Would much rather be missing a massive qualification party over there this weekend.

Yeah, of course it would. But i dont think that's where we lost it.

Strachan must stay.

So you're saying that the 1 point Ireland got from us made them qualify? Bullshit. It was OUR results against Germany, Georgia and Poland that cost us. NOT the game in Dublin.

Everything the players and ex-players say in the press goes against this.

True, and the sad thing is - if i'm not mistaken - the next Euros are all over the place at different cities / countries. So we might have missed our last realistic chance of going to a single country and camping up for 3 weeks of footballing joy.

Will you stop banging on about the draw in Dublin as our downfall in very thread? Taking 4 pts out of those 2 games and restricting the irish to only 1 is exactly what we hoped for at the start of the quals in every double header. The sad thing is the Ireland games were the only ones we DID get the results!

If anything, Strachan needs to stay and have more input into youth development.

I was an 18 year old student who couldn't afford it. Wish I'd maxed out a couple of credit cards.

Ah shit! I honestly thought Germany equalised, going by the comments on here. It was a dark 10 mins after the game - I had to switch everything off and go out for a walk.

Riiiiiiight... and would you be saying any of that if poland's last kick of the game hadn't went in and we were currently confirmed 3rd place?

The Georgia game cost us everything. All we needed to do at the start of the group was not let our 2 rivals Ireland or Poland get more points out of our 2 double headers against them, than we got. And we actually succeeded in that! It was the 'freak' results elsewhere that cost us.

I feel numb. Not bad or good... just nothing. I'm fed up with this constant state of affairs.

Commentator had to say that.

I see our game is 5 mins ahead of the ROI game - going to be a very painful 5 mins watching the end of that game assuming we win here.

to look on the bright side, scotland & ireland wins are better for us than scotland & ireland draws.

Ah

Not true - if we beat Poland and Ireland beat poland, we qualify at poland's expense.

Aye, but not if we draw. So really hoping for a German goal incase there's any late drama here.

Funnily enough that's what Archie MacPherson predicted on Sportsound the other night. A scotland win, followed by news of an ireland win.

Good hands Marshall.