Craig Fae Hamilton

Well said that Man! Plus, England have held the Euro's, the World Cup and the Olympics. Wales, Scotland and NI should have got to hold the Majority of the games. I know we are just Junior Partners or Colonies in all but name of the Great..........British Union. But fair's fair, this was the ideal chance to EXCLUDE England from holding the vast Majority of another Major Sporting Event!

With a wee bit of Searching, it is easy to find a 15% Discount Code at Toffs. It's hard to get a 150th Anniversary Strip, Home Strips are changing way to fast for my liking, so, I went Retro for the Boys 18th: - Scotland 1978 World Cup Strip - 'H.G. WILSON' no. '18' On The Back. - Argentina 1986 World Cup Strip - 'HAND OF GOD' no. '10' On The Back (For me so I could get free delivery)...................... All in, £117 Not bad for 2 Strips Personalised for 3 People. My Son, Me and Diego.

No Problem M8, Glad you enjoyed it and glad we got the 3 Points! A Gr8 Trip!

Flights are going up in Price. I originally booked Glasgow-Frankfurt, Out 19th June, back 27th. It does us for all 2nd and 3rd Group Games regardless of where they take place. Original Price = £215 Now = £360

I was in the West stand. Ditto, got there 25 Minutes early, missed Anthems, Silence and 1st 5 Minutes. There was no shorter Queue. Plus I joined a Q that did not seem to be moving much, swapped after a couple of minutes. It helped only very slightly, see above. Biggest problem is people having a problem with the QR code. When that happens an entire Q could be held up for a few MINUTES, not Seconds. Auto Turn-Stiles may be cheaper than a Manned Turn Stile, but for efficiency of entry, they absolutely suck!

And the chances of Scotland NOT winning the Group but finishing 2nd and taking the last 2nd Seed Spot are way above 2%. So by those calculations, Scotland have well above a 50% Chance of being a Pot 1 or Pot 2 Seed for the Finals. WOW! Just a note, I also checked BetFair, and the 1/12 are for a Top 2 Group finish as well. Not solely to qualify.

Specifically on the Betting aspect of it. I checked Paddy Power an their odds are 1/12 for Scotland to finish in the Top 2 in the Group. So, if they finished 3rd and qualified via the play-off, you'd still lose. Which is quite interesting. But, for qualification purposes, you are bang on the money! And to be honest, I don't really Gamble so that's 100% the important bit!

Yip, the last few Calculations on Qualification are spot on in my humble opinion!

I will add, Scotland being a POT 2 Team is not wholly dependent on winning the Group.

The main chance of Scotland NOT winning the Group (filtering out the less likely scenario's are) Spain to Beat Scotland by 2 Clear Goals + Spain to beat Norway AWAY from Home. If you have the chances of the 2 things above happening, Spain are FAVS. If you do not think BOTH these things will happen, Scotland are FAVS. Other Large Factors (but no where near as big as above) are: Scotland not beating Norway at HOME Scotland not beating Georgia AWAY And everything after that is on a sliding scale of probability.

Probably because: - We have an easier run in, Norway at Home, versus Spain playing them Away - 1 less game - Spain having to beat us by 2 clear goals to only level the head to head. I deffo put our chances of winning it above 50%. We go to Spain with the hope we don't lose by 2. The way we are playing, that is very achievable.

I put this on another thread. But it deserves it's own thread. Follow the Link below for some Excellent Analysis on Scotland's Probability of Qualifying, Finishing 1st in our Group, Finishing 2nd in our Group, Being in Pot 1 for the Finals Draw, Being in Pot 2. 1st Table: Current Ranking of all Teams to be in Pot 1, Pot 2, etc. 2nd Table: Projected Probability of finishing spot in our current Group. (From We Global Football) 3rd Table: Projected Probability of a Pot 1 / Pot 2 Seeding. (From We Global Football) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing It goes without saying. The %'s left over is the % Probability of Disaster for Scotland! 😬 Tie Breakers for the SEEDING POTS for the Finals: Position in the group; (i.e A 2nd Placed Team will always be Ranked LOWER than a Group WINNER, Regardless of Points) Higher number of points; Superior goal difference; Higher number of goals scored; Higher number of goals scored away from home; Higher number of wins; Higher number of wins away from home; Fair play conduct (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card); Position in the UEFA Nations League overall ranking. Current Group Tie-Breakers are: Higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question; Superior goal difference in matches played among the teams in question; Higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question; If, after having applied criteria 1 to 3, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 3 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings.[a] If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 5 to 11 apply; Superior goal difference in all group matches; Higher number of goals scored in all group matches; Higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; Higher number of wins in all group matches; Higher number of away wins in all group matches; Fair play conduct in all group matches (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card); Position in the UEFA Nations League overall ranking.

Yawn..................... For everyone else on this thread, current standings on the Pots and some excellent Analysis on the Pot Scotland will end up in from We Global Football on the link below. Scroll down to view it all: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing

See above, what I think of your Analysis. And frankly, Not only do I stand by my initial prediction. I also stand by my comment that you talk absolute mince 🤣 We are playing better than we have in the last 20 years and I need to listen to your pish. Jog On!

But lots of us like to have fun making predictions Pete. More analysis on this link as to why I think you are talking absolute shite! Scroll down, The stats seem to point on Scotland being a Pot 2 Team as a Minimum. What stats were you using to come to your conclusions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing

lol, Past Experience. This campaign has obliterated my experience of following Scotland in the last 20 years!

To add to the actual Analysis that has already been done (not by Pete), follow this link. Some people are putting the chances of Scotland winning our Group as high as 63.5%. And to avoid any confusion Pete, that would make us a Pot 2 Team as a MINIMUM. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing

Pete says that can' happen 🤣

You are getting mixed up with assuming and predicting. I give up.

Positions on the Finals Seedings updated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing

If points are same it goes to results v the 2 teams. To be above Spain if we end up level on points, we need to lose by 1 goal or less in Spain.

I never thought my prediction of at worst a 1 goal defeat in Spain and a Pot 1 or 2 Seeding would upset anybody. FFS Pete. 🤣🤣🤣 Everybody is allowed their view, not just you.

Hey Pete Yeah, it's complicated. But, anything equal to or better than a 1 Goal defeat in Spain would put us above Spain in the Group if we end up level on Points. That would give us a MINIMUM of POT 2 SEEDING! Like I said, WOW! We DRAW in Spain and win our last 2, 75% we would be a SEED 1? For Clarification, the Group Tie-Breakers are: Higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question; Superior goal difference in matches played among the teams in question; Higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question; If, after having applied criteria 1 to 3, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 3 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings.[a] If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 5 to 11 apply; Superior goal difference in all group matches; Higher number of goals scored in all group matches; Higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; Higher number of wins in all group matches; Higher number of away wins in all group matches; Fair play conduct in all group matches (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card); Position in the UEFA Nations League overall ranking. I updated the Table to include last nights games. If we lose in Spain by more than 2 Goals, currently we'd be in a shoot out with Austria for the last POT 2 Position. Lose in Spain by 2 Goals exactly and I reckon we will win our last 2 and end up with a POT 2 SEED. I stand by my prediction, POT 2 as a MINIMUM, although, it is on a KNIFE EDGE! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sPAM6KBimzCIqsRICuLOUT0R_UQsWzcWiv1rEnHS4DE/edit?usp=sharing

Fir anyone who wants a Qualifiers game to watch tonight. The Wales Game is currently free to watch on Channel S4C. On SKY it's Channel 135 They need to win and are 1-0 up, 51 Mins