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He was really good. Unbelievably composed. Lacks stature but makes up for it in technique and tenacity. People have said he should go to championship on loan but he's ready for a top league now.

We have better players than them. McKenna, Hanley and Gallagher may not be top class but they are still decent enough. Who cares that Tom mcintyre got a second yellow, seriously! Clutching at straws? On the flip side we have this blatantly obvious exceptional talent on the horizon and we'd rather talk about guys playing at Reading and Stoke. A midfield of gilmour and mctominay with options further forward of mcginn, Christie, Armstrong, Fraser and forrest is pretty exciting

Folk on here debating two pretty average defenders in Liam Lindsay and Tom McIntyre and completely glossing over the fact we have an absolutely outstanding 18 year old who played and excelled today for Chelsea 😒 A generational talent, who we are so fortunate to have!

So Fleck plays half a season in the Premier and that is enough to say he has proved himself at a higher level than McGregor? Mcgregor the player who has scored goals against Zenit, Bayern Munich and ajax and was excellent away to lazio recently in the Europa league? There will be more examples than that in sure. You just need to use your eyes sometimes to see what a player offers, it's not necessarily the case that the better the league the better the player. I'm not even the biggest mcgregor fan in the world, sometimes feel he flatters to deceive but Fleck will never have the same level of footballing ability and so isn't a better "attacking" midfielder. Fleck versus Jack is more of a fair comparison.

Never said anything about mcgregors goalscoring did I? Mcgregors function in the celtic team is not to score goals its to build play and dictate the game. He is a central midfielder, I just don't accept Fleck is anywhere near him as a footballer. As you say though, Christie is the attacking midfielder in the celtic team and hopefully also our team.

Fleck isn't a better attacking midfielder than calum mcgregor, come on man! Yes he plays in the Premier league and yes he has done well in a great start to the season for Sheffield United but he is a decent workmanlike midfielder. Calum mcgregor is a superb footballer of a far higher technical level who can dictate games and if he played in England I'm sure he'd be doing equally as well if not better than Fleck. Fleck and Jack are far more alike. Decent footballers but their game is mainly based around being grafters.

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Bit of a poor crop. Still think Craig Gordon has some life left in him yet, hopefully gets a loan in January. Hearts would be a good move for him and Hearts

I see David Marshall has been dropped at Wigan. Surely there is a suitable alternative out there?

Naismith played for killie on s/d form from under 14 onwards. He may have been at Rangers before that but he was never signed to be released.

Played competitively

I saw every single one of them. I'm 34. Ferguson was an excellent player, I don't dispute that. His performance at Wembley as a 21 year old was amazing. Mctominay is already performing at a level comparable with Ferguson and has so much room for growth. Remember Ferguson played for Blackburn and Birmingham. Lambert was a good player, personally felt he was a steady Eddie without being outstanding. Fletcher was a cracking player as well, probably the most similar of the 3 to mctominay

You don't think scoff mctominay comes close to those 3? Seriously? Ferguson in particular seems to have become a better player since he retired as he was persona non grata for a lot of Scotland fans for years. McTominay is top notch and will get better and better in years to come.

RE Cooper you're probably right just not been impressed by him any time I've seen him. Matt Smith? Wouldn't dismiss him out of hand as I'd think he be a big threat from set pieces but don't think he'll really be on the radar.

We certainly don't have any top class centre halves, that's why it's so important we get the right shape and formation to protect the defence whilst still being a threat going forward. Clarke is renowned for sitting deep so hopefully being nice and compact will protect our centre halves. I think Gallagher and McKenna are our best, yet to see anything from Cooper other than he captains Leeds therefore must be good. Centre forward, less worried about as we should have goals from the middle so we probably need our centre forward to link play and press from the front.

You are right to be cautious as we are completely unproven against any side of a decent calibre. We do though have a number of players playing at a good level who could actually get better which is quite encouraging. Think back to the days of Craig levein or Burley, we would have loved to have the level of potential that we currently have. Cautious optimism.....

Can't disagree with your 2 deeper midfielders, just can't believe for a second mctominay won't play. Not a chance robertson is getting dropped for Tierney For the missing centre half, Gallagher was solid

Marshall Palmer Gallagher McKenna Robertson McTominay McGregor Christie McGinn Fraser Griffiths

Would not like to see either of those teams being selected. Calum Paterson is a poor right back, worse than Palmer. No Christie is weird especially playing McLean in the position Christie has played really well in the last 3 games. Fraser in the hole is a new one and although in sure he would do well there, McGinn has that position nailed down and rightly so.

As an option, fine. I struggle with his lack of technical ability but appreciate he is an athlete and has his uses. No way should he be starting though. Johnston as you say looks like a great prospect and we have Forrest, Fraser and Christie for wide position. I’d also look at Armstrong as a sort of wide left midfielder as an option.

Listen mate, you genuinely think matt Phillips should start for Scotland. If that's not BS I don't know what is

And has the game intelligence of a small child. No thanks

He probably did put them first. We really shouldn't be taking such a hard line on our one and only player who plays at the elite level. Mo salah missed Egypts recent games with an ankle injury but then played for Liverpool, I wonder what the Egypt supporters forum were saying about that? "Get him hunted, I'd rather play some random who plays in the Egyptian Premier league, at least he is committed and sings the anthem!" 😜

I got my order wrong but was meaning the recent cyprus / Kazakhstan double header which I was assuming what the beef was over. If we are going back to the guy having a pretty genuine dental issue in the first Kazakh game then I'm equally as miffed. Andy Robertson is everything we want our players to be, yet even he isn't good enough for some people.

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