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    Our worst ever result?

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    Suppose it depends how you view it. I view it like this.  Last night was on a plastic pitch in their home ground, we are ranked 40th in world, we have no players in the team that played last night with top class european experience,  apart from maybe Forest and mcGregor but even this is at a basic level where the team they play for were beaten by teams from Kazahkstan,  we had players earning first caps and no one with vast international experience, its the beginning of the campaign so all is not lost. Saying all that we should have won.  Compare that with defeat against Peru and a draw against Iran in world cup in 78 these were teams who had no players playing in any major team in Europe and both ranked way below Scotland. Our team at the time had defeated England at Wembley it was full of European cup winners from Nottingham Forest and Liverpool we had European player of the year in Dalgleish and a Scotland squad made up of players playing at the highest level such as Joe Jordan who was with Man Utd who went on to play for Milan. Also these games were played in a neutral venue and games that could have taken us into the play offs of the world cup. I for one felt distraught at those results but last night i was upset but to be honest i could see it coming.
     

    Snodgrass, Ritchie, Tierney, Robertson, McArthur, S Fletcher, Fraser, Paterson, McGregor

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    4 minutes ago, scotlad said:

    Those were defeats inflicted in the World Cup finals - we can only dream of such things now.  Instead, nowadays we get skelped in the qualifiers by other also-rans.

    Suppose it depends how you view it. I view it like this.  Last night was on a plastic pitch in their home ground, we are ranked 40th in world, we have no players in the team that played last night with top class european experience,  apart from maybe Forest and mcGregor but even this is at a basic level where the team they play for were beaten by teams from Kazakstan,  we had players earning first caps and hardly anyone with vast international experience, its the beginning of the campaign so all is not lost. Saying all that we should have won.  Compare that with defeat against Peru and a draw against Iran these were teams who had no players playing in any major team in Europe and both ranked way below Scotland. Our team at the time had defeated England at Wembley it was full of European cup winners from Nottingham Forest and Liverpool we had European player of the year in Dalgleish and a Scotland squad made up of players playing at the highest level such as Joe Jordan who was with Man Utd who went on to play for Milan. Also these games were played in a neutral venue and games that could have taken us into the play offs of the world cup. I for one felt distraught at those results but last night i was upset but to be honest i could see it  coming.

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      1 hour ago, bigfathagiz said:

    Peru, Costa Rica?

    Those were defeats inflicted in the World Cup finals - we can only dream of such things now.  Instead, nowadays we get skelped in the qualifiers by other also-rans.

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      18 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said:

    Suppose it depends how you view it. I view it like this.  Last night was on a plastic pitch in their home ground, we are ranked 40th in world, we have no players in the team that played last night with top class european experience,  apart from maybe Forest and mcGregor but even this is at a basic level where the team they play for were beaten by teams from Kazakstan,  we had players earning first caps and hardly anyone with vast international experience, its the beginning of the campaign so all is not lost. Saying all that we should have won.  Compare that with defeat against Peru and a draw against Iran these were teams who had no players playing in any major team in Europe and both ranked way below Scotland. Our team at the time had defeated England at Wembley it was full of European cup winners from Nottingham Forest and Liverpool we had European player of the year in Dalgleish and a Scotland squad made up of players playing at the highest level such as Joe Jordan who was with Man Utd who went on to play for Milan. Also these games were played in a neutral venue and games that could have taken us into the play offs of the world cup. I for one felt distraught at those results but last night i was upset but to be honest i could see it coming.

    I will definitely be on my own but I think this team still has potential, it needs the right management. Some of our players are hitting good club form, like Mckenna, Bates, McTominey, McGinn, Mcgregor, Robertson, Fraser, Forrest, Fletcher and Bain. Burke is still raw, with the right coaching at club level he can still be a player. Christie was missing just when he hit the club form of his life and he impressed playing for Scotland. I think McKenna will soon move to england, maybe O'Donnell too, do killie fans think he could go on to bigger things?

    Thats the nucleus of a decent starting line up, imagine what it could be if Griffiths screws the nut

    I am of the thinking that players shouldn't need to be motivated to play,  but I do realise some of the  pansies we have need motivating, if we can get the right manager to get these players going we could be a decent team.

    Teams do turn things around with the right coach, just look at Man Utd and Killie

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    Snodgrass, Ritchie, Tierney, Robertson, McArthur, S Fletcher, Fraser, Paterson, McGregor

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    Suppose it depends how you view it. I view it like this.  Last night was on a plastic pitch in their home ground, we are ranked 40th in world, we have no players in the team that played last night with top class european experience,  apart from maybe Forest and mcGregor but even this is at a basic level where the team they play for were beaten by teams from Kazakstan,  we had players earning first caps and hardly anyone with vast international experience, its the beginning of the campaign so all is not lost. Saying all that we should have won.  Compare that with defeat against Peru and a draw against Iran these were teams who had no players playing in any major team in Europe and both ranked way below Scotland. Our team at the time had defeated England at Wembley it was full of European cup winners from Nottingham Forest and Liverpool we had European player of the year in Dalgleish and a Scotland squad made up of players playing at the highest level such as Joe Jordan who was with Man Utd who went on to play for Milan. Also these games were played in a neutral venue and games that could have taken us into the play offs of the world cup. I for one felt distraught at those results but last night i was upset but to be honest i could see it coming.

    McLeish Should Sacked Before the Weekend.

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    Any decent manager would have played a guy at left back who had been playing in that position for his club. I cannot believe McLeish did not call someone else up after losing his two best players in that position. Even so McGregor would have been better there with McTominey replacing McGregor in midfield, even calling up Halliday who had a great game against Celtic when Rangers won 1 nil or Barry Douglas would have been better than Shinnie. Shinnie last played in that position months ago and only for the odd game.  O'Donnell should also have played as Palmer did not even play in friendlies and has no experience with teamates in defence,  at least O'Donnell knew setup and how team playes,   he linked well with Forrest in previous game why was he dropped?

    We can still make 2nd place

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    even getting 2nd place its not going to get us qualified ....

    we will need more points than other teams in second and still need to get through a qualifier.........

    I think we are fecked.   Sad but true......

    if only burke patterson mcarthur mcormack, phillips boyd bardsley and rhodes had been more involved............

    though i'm sure the berk fae berkshire will disagree which is pathetic....hehe

    The Scottish Sunday Mail

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    original question was THIS

    Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"?  I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority,  a minority that should be punished and after this story they will probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible.  What about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists,  laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect.   So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different?  Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page.   I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion.   The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended.  In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified?

     

    The Scottish Sunday Mail

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    2 minutes ago, aaid said:

    Pathetic I may be, but at least I know how to use the quote function correctly. 

    There is more to life than knowing how to use a quote function, glad you agreed you are pathetic and with the above quote you have just made me realise you are sad as well.

     

    The Scottish Sunday Mail

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    8 minutes ago, aaid said:

    So the pictures are fakes then?  It never happened, is that what you're saying?

    Just because others are worse doesn't mean that it's acceptable to expose yourself in public.

     

    3 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said:

    I expected that response from you because it does not matter what I say you will disagree Only need to check the history of your comments to see that.    Go back and read my post I stated  "I saw the idiots"   I also stated what they did was "indefensible"  why Don't you read the post properly before typing?

     

    The Scottish Sunday Mail

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    5 minutes ago, aaid said:

    So the pictures are fakes then?  It never happened, is that what you're saying?

    Just because others are worse doesn't mean that it's acceptable to expose yourself in public.

     

    Once again you look daft....I am not saying any of this ... you are pathetic.

    The Scottish Sunday Mail

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    Is it justified?...On the front page it said "disgrace"?  I was there from from 12.30 till 5.30 I saw the idiots and the guys in the water. Seems to me the story is based on a very very small minority,  a minority that should be punished and after this story they will probably be punished for the rest of their life, what they did was indefensible.  What about the other 13,000 or so who behaved themselves, they mixed with tourists,  laughed with police, were silent when they needed to be, and paid respect.   So playing devils advocate, was this story over the top? Could the emphasis been different?  Given Scotland were beaten three nil did we really need a negative storyline about a small minority on one of the biggest selling newspapers in Scotland front page.   I am not defending the guys who done wrong I am only opening this up for discussion.   The mess that was left was bad but not any worse than new year celebrations which I have attended.  In my opinion the Scots dids not behave like the english fans at the Euros but the Sunday Mail is now carrying stories that make the Scots out to be a disgrace....so is it justified?

     

    Next manager

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    1 minute ago, aaid said:

    So, he scored some important goals in the 70s and 80s although his overall goals to games ratio is poor. He had a couple of reasonable spells as a manager 25 years ago and has been an assistant manager since then and has never shown any inclination to be a manager again.

    On the plus side, he can take his false teeth out and be quite scary.

    There are about 100 better qualified candidates than Joe Jordan. 

    So who would you choose?  that's twice I have asked you that, you avoiding the question I mean you have 100 to choose from canny be hard to pick one.   Please don't come back with abusive comments It's not clever or nice and it makes you look stupid.

    Next manager

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    2 hours ago, macy37 said:

    The fckwits who are touting Joe Jordan.....just go and tell me on what basis you are touting him please....go on......

    As you can see from above he has the experience and would be respected by players but he was never my first choice and I was not "touting him" he was in a group of a load of guys who will not get near the managers job.....you obviously canny tell what a tongue and cheek comment is

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