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47 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said:
Ronald Koeman struck the ball as good as anyone I've ever seen, I dont think he would describe himself as a striker...
There is more to being a striker than being able to strike the ball cleanly
...I cannae believe I'm getting roped intae this shite
Yes. But being a striker isn't all about free kicks and penalties, either.
The question is: Could David Turnbull play as a striker?
My answer: Yes.
I'm not asking you to reply. My answer is what I think, if you disagree then fair enough. I'm not asking for your opinion.
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Paul Scholes started off as a striker, Eric Cantona in goals, etc. There are tons of examples of players being versatile enough to play in multiple positions.
Hell, James Milker has played everywhere (even in goals with leads, when Robinson was sent off).
Could Turnbull play upfront? Yes. He strikes the ball better than any of our strikers.
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7 minutes ago, GraemeTA said:
Hope so
Kennedy recently rejected a new Rangers contract.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballinsider247.com/kennedy-rejects-new-rangers-contract/amp/
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Another Performance School graduate. Great prospect, hopefully Kai Kennedy makes a similar move, as both are special wingers.
Researching Kennedy, Gerrard has told him he can leave. For a player that's recently been courted by Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Roma, that seems like an interesting decision.
It strikes me that Steven Gerrard just doesn't like Scottish players.
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52 minutes ago, SWMM82 said:
McGregor and Jack are not awful footballers. I’m disappointed that McGregor hasn’t tested himself elsewhere, but he is more than capable of playing in the EPL.
I get that Jack isn’t for everyone because of his lack of creativity, but he has shown in Europe and against Celtic he’s effective at breaking up play and keeping it simple. Takes the sting out the game which is vital against stronger teams.You can be average and still be able to play in the EPL. That league is good, but let's not pretend that it's filled with Pirlo's and Messi's.
I don't think it's a case of McGregor not testing himself elsewhere, it's more of a case of no one from a better league wanting him. There's a reason for that.
Take Turnbull, for example. In a couple of years he'll be off to the EPL because Celtic will have received an offer that they can't refuse.
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1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said:
Does anyone think Turnbull could potentially be turned into a striker, he's scored more spl goals per game than most of the other Scottish strikers in the league and that's from midfield. Not sure he has incredible pace that alot of top strikers have but he certainly knows how to finish and has good link up play. Maybe clutching at straws but we are desperate for strikers.
Some people seem to think asking a player to play a different position is akin to asking a football to play another sport. 😛
I don't see why not.
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2 hours ago, SWMM82 said:
McTominay is a good player but he’s never a defensive midfielder. His lack of defensive awareness and inability to read the game will always hold him back. He’s more box to box but unfortunately he’s never going to get a game ahead of Pogba.
For me McGinn, McGregor and Armstrong are all better than “decent”, and Ryan Jack, while not the most technically gifted, does a good job screening the defence and reads the game well.
Gilmour is the one though... hope the injury doesn’t hold him back. He can play anywhere in midfield and has the ability to be one of the very best.
Yeah. There's no way that he's an anchorman. He's a box-to-box midfielder. It's a pity that United play with the same system as we do (4-2-3-1) as it doesn't facility a box-to-box midfielder. His main strength is carrying the ball forward.
McGinn is fine, so is Armstrong, but more than decent? No. McGregor and Jack are awful.
Agreed.
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13 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:
He probably could but after watching some EPL games towards the end of the season, the quality is shite enough that getting a game for Burnley isn’t much to get excited about.
Yep. Take out the top 6 and it's just an extension of the English Championship.
People see EPL teams throw around money like it's confetti and it fogs up their judgement.
In this current team, the most Bayern Munich spent on a single player is £27m, and they are an absolute machine. It puts things into perspective.
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5 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said:
I’d agree with that, not sure why people think we’re strong in midfield, we’ve a few decent midfielders at best.
I don't know. If McGregor, etc, joined the EPL they would hold their own. I mean, if James MacArthur can do it...
But you're right, our midfielders are "decent". Nothing more. McTominay, before the lockdown, was on an upward curve, but since the return, he's been dreadful.
For anyone to mention McAllister, Collins, Lambert and McCall, in the same sentence as out current midfielder choices, is... Strange. Those four got us to tournaments and won major club honours. They faces top international teams, in finals, and didn't shirk.
This midfield mob don't have a drop of what the aforementioned quad had.
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4 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said:
I don't rate McGregor that highly either, certainly shouldn't be an automatic pick in midfield.
Do you not rate Gilmour that highly or is he omitted due to his injury? Could easily win a few trophies at Chelsea by age of 25 if that's the criteria although he probably needs Lampard to stay for a few more years.
Gilmour is (hopefully) going to be a star.
He's a performance school graduate.
Watch the Scotland u 17s and the u 19s and you'll know what I'm talking about. The performance schools have been the best thing the SFA have ever done.
So yes, when people say "We're strong in midfield", it's a fantasy. McGregor is a first pick for us, and last night he didn't look any better than a Scott Brown, who is over the hill
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21 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said:
No they were very good, I think I said as much about two of them and McCall during the euro 96 re-watch in June. But then you'll get someone on here going on about the options in the 70s and 80s and saying they weren't that good compared to those eras.
I think a little context is required. Paul Lambert was 27 when his contract expired at Motherwell. John Collins was 29 when he won French title.
A decent number of current options are 25 or under so still have time to grow and who knows who'll pick them up in the future and win trophies. I doubt anyone thought when Andy Robertson was 23 he'd be a key part of a european cup winning team two seasons later.
Hadn't McTominay broken through when Man. United won the Europa in May 2017?
No. Every player has a ceiling, and what we're seeing now IS the ceiling of our midfielders.
Collins at Celtic was a Rolls Royce, Lambert was a hidden gem at Motherwell, McAllister captained a team consisting of Cantona.
If you're saying that our current midfielder are just waiting to blossom, yeah, well, I respectfully disagree.
We have midfielder in the Scotland u17/19 who are light years ahead of players like Jack, McGregor, McArthur, etc.
And no. McTominay has no medals in his cabinet.
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52 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said:
Decent crop of midfielders
McAllister, Collins and Lambert were "decent"?
They won 6 major trophies between them. As opposed to Jack, McGregor, Fleck, McTominay, McGinn, Armstrong, Christie, etc, who have won zero. And will never get one between them. McTominay could win the FA Cup.*
*Trophies in Scotland don't count.
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13 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said:
Odd criteria. In the mid 90s Gary Mac was let go by Leeds and was involved in relegation battle at Coventry before Liverpool picked him up as a squad player.
Paul Lambert was being released by Motherwell in 1996. No one could've predicted the improvement he'd make over next few years.
John Collins got a great move to Monaco but then struggled to impose himself back in England at Everton. Was probably more effective at Fulham but he'd long retired from national team by then.
Stuart McCall was moving to Bradford in division one after leaving Rangers. Last cap in 1998.
Barry Ferguson just coming through at the time.
Durrant injured.
Decent crop of midfielders who played their parts in Scotland qualifying for three tournaments in the 90s.
I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
Gary McAllister won the first division with Leeds, the FA Cup, Uefa cup and the European super cup with Liverpool. Paul Lambert won the European cup. John Collins won Ligue 1.
Those three are three of the most technically gifted midfielders that I've seen in a Scotland shirt. I don't care who was released by whom (Lambert wasn't released by anyone. His contract expired)
McCall was a better version of Scott Brown.
You've mentioned midfielders that have won major honours and stood toe-to-toe with Brazil, et al, and never disgraced themselves (Watch the Morocco match again, it was closer than it first appeared).
Our current crop of midfielders can barely hold their own against the likes of Israel, etc. Imagine them in a real tournament. Their legs would visibly tremble.
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On 8/23/2020 at 12:40 PM, GHfaeGTA said:
Hope you’re right. Lewis Neilson, just turned 17, and a performance school graduate, put in a very accomplished performance yesterday at RB for DUFC. I’m sure he’ll end up as a CH. Big strong lad but a very decent footballer
Good call.
Everton, Southampton, Leicester City and Leeds have been scouting Lewis Neilson.
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Another masterclass from McGregor tonight, displaying his full range of passing (0-5 yards, backwards and sideways)
If a midfielder, who is 27 and supposed to be at his peak, can't stamp his authority and dominate a Hungarian midfield, I think it's time to re-asses the universal opinion that we have a strong midfield.
He reminds me of Man United's Lingard, who is a figure of fun amongst United fans.
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3 hours ago, mcnish said:
Tend to agree about why Robertson looks impressive for Scotland but trying to convert him in to a midfielder (already our only strong part of the team) isn't the answer. Alaba can adapt to midfield as he has spent a significant amount of time playing there at club level for Bayern. That doesn't mean any left back can automatically adapt to being equally competent in midfield. Robertson has no familiarity with the role(nor TIerney) , he might be a disaster there and it could end up undermining our midfield, where we already have several proficient players, as well as nullifying out best player and turning him in to our worst.
Being blessed with two international class left backs could turn in to a curse if we get too imaginative in trying to find a way to accommodate the both of them.
Yeah. He might be a disaster in midfield. "Might" is the word.
We already know that McGregor, et al, offers us bugger all. How many times do we need to fail before we decide to change things up?
Regardless, Clarke, in my opinion, is not progressive enough to do anything radical, so it's not even worth talking about.
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2 minutes ago, mrniaboc said:
Christie just scored for Celtic against Ferencvaros. McGregor, Forrest, and Taylor started too.
Oh look. Another one of my profiles.
How am I doing?
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1 hour ago, Texas Pete said:
Robertson or Tierney need to play at LB assuming Clarke plays with a back 4. Tierney is very rarely in the squad so Robertson has been playing there.
It wouldn’t make much sense to have Robertson playing in midfield if we need to play a far inferior player at LB. especially when we already have decent midfielders.
If - and it’s a big if - Clarke starts playing 3 at the back then he would probably go with Tierney as one of the back 3 and Robertson as left wing back.
Serious question, I’m not trying to be an arse - do you have any coaching experience?
To be honest, mate, I'm sick of talking about it.
Clarke will not play 3 at the back. If he's anything like Levein or Strachan, he'll play with a three as a last resort, at the end of his tenure, and for one or two matches, and then revert to form.
Formally? No. My nephew used to be in the Hamilton youths (a few years below McArthur and McCarthy), so I take credit for that. He gave up when his kneecap ended up on the wrong side of his leg.
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1 hour ago, Texas Pete said:
He’d need to search through about 15 different profiles though. 😂😂😂
Yeah. One of those profiles is you.
Hopefully that taught you not to believe the hype.
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3 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:
You dont have to do anything
If someone asks a question (for the ten-thousandth time), I feel compelled to reply.
Not anymore, though. I'm done explaining it to people. If they don't understand by now, they never will.
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15 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:
At one time it seemed that we had ample alternatives to Fraser: Morgan, Johnston (Mikey), Middleton, Hastie. What happened to them all?
They were all mooted, none of them have actually did anything of note.
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3 hours ago, Super_Scotlandfan said:
Haha don’t pretend you don’t love posting about Robertson in central midfield.
Austria played Alaba in central midfield because their midfield was relatively weak. He hasn’t played there recently for them. Our midfield isn’t weak relative to the rest of the team. Bayern played him in central defence recently because they’ve needed him there as Thiago, Kimmich and Muller have been brilliant. Their central defence hasn’t been.
Same reason why Scotland will consider playing Tierney out of position to cover our weakest area.
Being central doesn’t always mean you influence the game more. At Liverpool, Robertson and TAA touch the ball far more than the midfielders.
I don’t mind players playing out of their normal position, but only when covering a position that’s weaker.
Also comparing McGregor to Lingard is bizarre. Completely different players.
I don't. The fact that I have to justify a perfectly logical reasoning (over and over again) is... Urgh.
Austria's midfield is relatively weak? They have several midfielders in the Bundesliga, including Leverkusen and Wolfsburg. Not to mention that Austria are 26th in the ratings, as opposed to our 50th. So, whichever way you want to slice it, Austria are better than us. Much better.
Bayern Munich's defense hasn't been brilliant? Dude, they've just won the Bundesliga for the eighth year in a row. This season they won the treble, including the European Cup. In 2020 they won 25 out of 26 matches.
Robertson and TAA get the ball so much because Liverpool dominate possession. And TAA has been touted as a future midfielder by some in the English media.
They're different players? Both are midfielders. Both are worry in stature and like to drift forward. Neither actually contribute anything. The Man United fans hate Lingard and think of him as a waste of space... I'm guessing they'd think the same of McGregor, if he (somehow) joined Man United.
Anyway. I'm done explaining this (as well as the 3-5-2 thing). If you want answers to questions, they're here, just search for them.
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1 hour ago, Super_Scotlandfan said:
Of course the best players in the world can play in different positions.
But your idea of playing Robertson or Tierney as a central midfielder actually makes Scotland weaker. This is clearly our strongest position, why would you start to play a left back there (as a professional for the very first time!) instead of proven English Premiership players plus McGregor and Jack.
We don’t need them to play midfield. We need them at left back, left wing back, right back or left centre back.
Groan. Does anyone want me to go through this, again?!?! I sure as f#@$ don't!!
Fine. Once more with feeling.
People bitch and whine about Andrew Robertson not being as effective for Scotland as he is for Liverpool. And they're correct. He isn't as effective for Scotland. Why? Because for Liverpool they usually dominate the ball and if you look at the heat map for Liverpool, he spends 75% of his time on the left wing. Whereas, for Scotland, he's either being pinned back in a left back position, because our ball retention is embarrassing, or he simply doesn't see the ball, as our ball retention is embarrassing.
Why do Austria play David Alaba as an anchorman? He plays center back or left back with Bayern Munich. They play him there because he's their best player and he can get the ball more often when he's in the middle and influence play.
As for McGregor, he reminds me of Lingard of Manchester United. He looks proactive and lively, without actually doing anything. As for Jack. No.
Our best football players are Tierney, McTominay, Robertson and McGinn. If they play in the middle, they'll see more of the ball. It's not everything, but at least it's a foundation.
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34 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said:
It’s the Dutch way to be able to play any position, is it not?
It is. Same in France and Germany and all the major nations
In their grassroots they don't assign positions to their kids. One match player x will be playing in one position, the next match he'll be playing in another.
We're the only ones who are obsessed by positions. It's not like they're playing a different sport.
Look at the recent European Cup final. Both Kimmich and Alaba played everywhere in defence and midfield last season. Muller could play in any outfield position, same with Davies, Thiago, Silva, Boateng.
In my opinion, so could Robertson and Tierney, which is what stands them apart from their Scotland team-mates.
I'm not saying every one of our players can play in multiple positions... Some of our players can't even play in one position.
Scottish player transfers
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Petty much 100% of my posts, I'm not asking for opinions, etc, as I only care about my opinion.
Got it? Good.
As for actually playing Turnbull in attack. No. I wouldn't. We are weak in midfield, so I'd promote him to the senior team now and play him in a midfield 3.