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  1. 9 minutes ago, McTeeko said:

    The SFA will make millions through being co-hosts anyway.

    Damn. I hadn't thought of that.

    Great. More money for them go to fancy restaurants, expensive holidays, etc, meanwhile Scottish football is burning.

    The SFA remind me of Nero. (Contrary to popular belief he did not play the Violin while Rome burned) He was ambivalent to his people suffering and he was an ineffectual leader in a time of crisis. 

  2. 7 minutes ago, WeLuvIrnBru said:

    My word.  I never ever alluded to anything like that.  We have decent players.....not world beaters.  I certainly think that we have better players rhan Northern Ireland.  They have qualified with worse players than us.

    We can qualify and be so much better than we are with a decent manager.   I am not saying we will every be world beaters.....but we have quality, and enough to certainly qualify for the European finals.

    No, I know. It was me going all eductio ad absurdum. 

    I'm not interesting In anything short term such as qualifying. It's evident that we can't, even with a decent manager at the helm. Watch the Kazakhstan match again. Our players froze. It's as simple as that. They froze. People can point the finger of blame to McLeish all they like, the fact is, the players simply are petrified at this level. 

    I'm not taking anything away from Kazakhstan, as they were fantastic. They played with a system and they absolutely nailed it! They have inferior players, so they played in a system that managed to condense the pitch, pack the middle and pretty much smother our players when we had the ball In midfield. They reminded me of how we used to play under Craig Brown.

  3. 1 hour ago, ErsatzThistle said:

    It just occurred to me that some potential managers may not want to work with a "performance director" and they might need to get rid of Mackay or employ him in another role.

    Btw did I not read on here a couple of weeks ago that some of the players had complained to the SFA about Mackay, although no details were given ?

    A top manager may have a view on it, but the manager the SFA appoints will just be glad to receive a wage.

    I don't recall.

  4. 6 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

    Clarke might have the stature though to insist on certain changes in the background.

    I don't think the SFA would give a manager the job if they insisted that they actually did stuff.

    4 minutes ago, The Ormond said:

    Fantastic post

    Yes. Awesome post it was. Let's just pretend that things are rosy, shall we?

    McKenna is poised to join Real Madrid. McBurnie is about to join Juventus for £1.2bn. Tierney is in talks with Barcelona about a trade with Messi. And Kevin McDonald, well, talk in the clocktower is that he's about to join Manchester City for £1 and a tube of smarties.

    We can all pretend that everything is rosy and that the future is bright and that we have a human conveyer belt churning out superstar after superstar. Fine.

    Personally, I'd rather be a realist and discuss the barren waste ground that is Scottish football.

  5. 3 minutes ago, mrniaboc said:

    I understand what you're saying, but do you genuinely belive it can happen? 

    Good question.

    Could it happen? Yes. You see governments being overthrown by their people (usually with violence, which I would never condone), and this is just a little FA in comparison. If the fans stood up, en mass, and really took the fight to the SFA, via picketing, via boycotts of games and tickets and official merchandise, banners, chanting, and I'm talking about a sustained tactic over years, then yes, I think it can happen.

    The chanting in San Marino from the Tartan Army of "Sack the board" was a watershed moment. I've never, ever witnessed or heard any discontentment from the Tartan Army before. We usually take hardship with a wink and a smile, not this time, though. 

    I hope that the fans that do attend the Cyrus match (hopefully there's not many of them) make as much of a statement that they can for the entire 90 minutes. From there it can snowball.

    We're at a crossroads. It's either put up with the SFA for ever or rattle their cages.

  6. 1 minute ago, mrniaboc said:

    I think it's surprisingly naive of you to think if we were to burn down like that a phoenix would rise from the ashes. 

    I know it's boring, but change for the better should be done incrementally while trying to maintain as high a standard as possible in the meantime. A new manager is a step in the right direction. Next, some changes in how the SFA works. 

    Let's not just throw away a bunch of campaigns to make a statement. You wouldn't put on 10 stones to shock yourself into becoming fit! 

    Action has to be taken. If that means we stop Scottish football in its tracks in order to make progress then so be it. I know what you're saying about doing it in stages. but what we need is a radical change of power... now! If I had my way all of the SFA members would be shown the door and replaced with temps. They don't do anything anyway, so what would it matter. The temps would hold the fort whilst the recruitment process took place.

    Let's not throw away a bunch of campaigns to make a statement? How many campaigns have we thrown away in the past 18 years? All of them? How many more do we have to throw away before we actually get it?

  7. 3 minutes ago, mrniaboc said:

    I prefer decimal, but I do still understand what a fraction is. 

    Back on topic. I want a young, hungry manager. To go with our young squad. 

    OK, I think I worded my post wrong, I think everyone understand how fractions work, as it's basis maths. I just find the decimal system more basic, which is pretty much what you need what you want to make a fast wager.

     

  8. 1 hour ago, bazmidd said:

    Firstly Mcdonald isn't even playing in the most overhyped league in the world he is a bench warmer at best.

    Secondly it isnt even matter of fact that it is the best league in the world... Don't believe the hype

    Lastly I just explained why I think McGregor is a good player as I have watched him perform brilliantly against the likes of Bayern Munich and Zenit none of which were made up of free transfers. 

    If you want to make points fine but don't make comments which are made out to be a matter of fact when they are not

     

     

    I didn't say it was the best league in the world. Take out the top 6 and it's just an extension of the Championship... which ain't good.

    You're mentioning two matches. Is Tony Watt the new Brazilian Ronaldo because he scored against Barcelona?  Anyone can have a good game here or there. If McGregor was in England he sure as hell wouldn't be with a top 6 team. 

    1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said:

    "Not being ready yet"attitude has held us back for years

    Point taken. I actually meant "not good enough".

    I actually think the lad from Everton is a better prospect, can't remember his name..

  9. 1 hour ago, WeLuvIrnBru said:

    Of course things would improve with a top manager.

    I am getting a bit fed up with the "does not matter who is manager as our players are awful" mentality.  It is this very train of thought that is killing our game domestically and at international level.

    A more positive perspective from the press and the fans may well help us achieve more.  Half of the time we are beaten before a  ball is kicked.  It is no wonder that we have so many players withdraw.  Our attitute stinks at times...this must filter down to the players, who must think...what is the point, we are not good enough?

    We have very decent players.  Our captain has been (including this season) instrumental to leading his club team to 2 successive Champions League semi finals, and has a shot of winning a league winners medal at one of the world's top leagues.  We have Fraser too, who is one of the top assisters in the very same league with a bang average side, and being touted with a move to Arsenal.  A slew of very deent professionals at our top Scottish team, the best of which (in my opinion) being Tierney, I do think he will be in one of europe's top leagues very soon.  McKenna, whilst having a lot to learn, is very promising, and valued in the £10million bracket.  Bates...getting rave reviews in Germany.  McTominay, bossing games versus PSG, and playing for one of the world's top teams.  We have the like of Gilmour, who I believe will be top quality, coming through.  Possibily Dembele, although attitudes such as this will ultimately force him to chose England over us.

    In Griffiths' absense we do lack a decent striker.  But if Northern Ireland can make Maggenis look decent, then the like of McBurnie and S Fletcher can be made into world beaters.

    It is not all doom and gloom, and what I guess I am trying to day is, given the right manager, we will be a LOT better.  No more of this defeatist attitude that had plagued our game for too long.

    Anyway...rant over.

    Things would definitely improve, but only short term.

    So, you're blaming the fans for killing the game? OK. If you want to blame anyone blame the SFA for doing nothing to improve or game, blame the domestic clubs for facilitating these jackasses and blame the Old Firm for being monumental douchebags.

    What you're saying is positive mental attitude will improve things? I'm all for Chi and meditation, etc, but let's face facts, the majority of the players in our pool are simply not good enough at international level. How many of them play in European competitions? If they do, it's usually the preliminary stages. We all witnessed how our players simply dissolved against Kazakhstan. That performance alone should've been a wake-up call to all of the fans that these players really are pathetic. I watched the game and I was literally laughing. I was literally wishing more goals to be shipped, why? Because it would wake people up to the fact that we need change. Major change.

    Football matches are won and lost in midfield, our midfield is that bad that I'm begging the next manager to play a trio of Fraser, Robertson and McTominay. Celtic won't allow Tierney to leave for less than £25m. No team will ever pay that amount for a Scottish player based in Scotland. Gilmour will or won't make it, no one knows Demele will only choose Scotland if England don't want him.

    Why does everyone like McBurnie? This is his first real season in football and he's done alright. That's it. He's done alright. He's not really for international football yet.

    If we want the right manager then the SFA must go, because they'll go the cheap route.

  10. 8 minutes ago, bazmidd said:

    Your comparison of Kevin Mcdonald and Calum McGregor though is nonsense as McGregor is a better player than him. Mcdonald is a mediocre player

    Well, one is playing against free transfers and the other in one of the best leagues in the world.

    McGregor may be better, but it's not by much.

  11. 13 minutes ago, daviebee said:

    Well that's just fkin daft.

    So, it's better for us to treading water whilst we float around the 30/50 ranking mark?

    I disagree.

    I'd rather sink to as long as we can get, the SFA resign in disgrace, we replace them with competent people, things get fixed, and we become a great team with a conveyer belt of superstars.

  12. 38 minutes ago, bazmidd said:

    I don't believe any hype and I don't choose to believe something just because you say so either. I believe what I see with my own eyes and for me Calum McGregor is a good player. I have watched him play well for Celtic on numerous occasions in Europe notably against bayern Munich and zenit St Peters burg where he scored an absolutely class goal

    Fine, he's a good player. But I want players who are better than good. I'm sure Wolves and Fulham fans think that McDonald is good, doesn't mean he's good enough.

     

    11 minutes ago, tartanmartin said:

    Caledonian Craig and Chripper - I agree with you both that a clear our is required and football folk brought in for the key roles. Folk like Nevin, Alex Ferguson, Mikey Stewart etc. Folk that are forward thinking and take no shit.

    But, it's extremely difficult to see how that happens within the existing governance framework. 

    I don't see it happening. I think the only way that it might happen is if Scotland fans actually got together, picketed, boycotted and hit the SFA where it hurts.

    We're in a never-ending loop when it comes to the SFA. It's akin to a country ran by a tyrannical leader, when that person retires, he then appoints his sibling. And that's exactly what they are. They're tyrants. They take our money and give nothing back.

  13. 18 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said:

    I do agree with Chripper I do not see us going forward until there is a clear out at the SFA and a complete re-organisation and rethink of how the game is run in Scotland plus league make-up etc.

    I absolutely agree.

    This chopping and changing managers will do practically zilch.

    An absolute overhaul of the way that the entire structure of Scottish football is run, from top to bottom, as well as gutting out the SFA and bringing in people who actually know about the game... I know that it's a radical idea bring in football people to actually structure a football association, but why the hell not.

  14. Just now, tartanmartin said:

    They are elected by the club's which is likely wrong. Fans deserve a say but it's not going to happen. Jokeshop.

    The fans definitely deserve a vote.

    In general, fans are taken for mugs. We're loyal, and that loyalty is exploited, both at domestic level and at international level. 

    At both levels, they work for us. If fans didn't go to matches, pay subscriptions, etc, there would be no football. Simple as that.

    The SFA are supposed to control and govern Scottish Football, but look at the state it's in. I don't think it's been in a worse state, domestically and internationally. These people are not football people, these are just people who sit in offices with big desks and twiddle their thumbs... all they seem to do is hire and sack managers.

     

  15. Just now, tartanmartin said:

    So you'll understand that currently the board get elected by the clubs.  It's how that gets changed because the clubs are probably happy with those in role at present. 

    The initial change I'd make would be to empower the chief exec and remove the power from committees.

    I feel that you and me are on the same page but unfortunately it is not as straightforward as sacking the lot of them - no matter how appealing that is. 

    I know. And they definitely are. The clubs voting for change is like Turkeys voting for Christmas, it's just never going to happen.

    Oh, we're definitely on the same page, and I really hope more people are. 

    McLeish getting sacked has just enraged me even more. Why? Because the SFA will think that they've given us what we want and now all is rosy in the garden of Scotland. Wrong! 

  16. 1 minute ago, romanticscot said:

    We need to have a public voice, we need to say here are our expectations of the new manager and here are our list of demands, if those are not met there you can expend a freeze on merchandise spend, and a boycott of matches.  Financially is the only way we can hurt them and force change.

    As well the expectations of the SFA. People seem to forget that the SFA work for us. They're our employees. Therefore, we are well without our rights to be able to have a say in how the SFA is run and outline our expectations. If those expectations aren't adhered to, head's should roll.

    I think so. Personally I'm not going to give them another penny of my money. I've officially had enough. I really hope I'm not the only one who thinks that. We all have our petty little squabbles in this place, partisan opinions, etc, but for the love of Scotland I want us to come together on this one.

    I'm at the end of my tether.

  17. 6 minutes ago, ElChris04 said:

    Again, I have nothing to regret. There was no malice in my comments directing to his health, again wouldn’t sink that though. It’s a game off football at the end of the day and my opinion was solely on his 12 game performance as our manger. I honestly don’t know what else to say. 

    Mate, you don't have to say anything, as you did nothing wrong. Just leave it be.

    There are certain people here who are... well... for the lack of a better terms, wimps. They say things to you on here that they wouldn't dare say to your face. Personally, in this place people have tried to score points off me since the day I registered, but they haven't scored a single point. It's nice that they keep trying. I hope they do, as perseverance is the key to perfection.

    :)

  18. Just now, romanticscot said:

    YES YES and YES again.  Apparently the SFA told BBC one story and Sky another - was he sacked or was it mutual?

    The SFA is incompetent.

    *sigh*

    Sadly, I can believe it.

    I'm done with the SFA. In any other company in the world if there's an employee who's incompetent, they get fired. But the SFA are a different breed, for some reason it would appear that every single member is unsackable, hell, if they're useless enough they may even get promoted to president like Petrie.

    In any government if the people aren't happy, they either vote to get them out or in more extreme cases they take them down by force.

    We don't have a vote, so I'm cool with the other option.

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