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    Wanky Phrases

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    No problem mate. I already acknowledged that had he been referring to the geography of the island (which he absolutely clearly wasn't) then there would be no issue.

    For me, it was the repetitive, shoe horned nature of his referrals which made the expressions "wanky" in my humble opinion. :ok:

    Cool, no worries. :ok:

    Back on topic, Cameron's "let's be clear about this" or "let's be absolutely clear on this", before he says anything. Basically saying he's right, every other opinion is wrong. If we have another opinion it's cos we don't understand what he does. To be honest, loads of politicians do it, but cameron says it all the bloody time.

    Wanky Phrases

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    Not sure if you're just being deliberately obtuse or not. You are correct to say my knowledge of NI politics is limited in the extreme, but I flatter myself it's sufficient to recognise the existence of 2 countries, NI (or UK if you prefer) and RoI.

    I'd get your point if in the context of what he was saying he was simply referring to a geographical area on the island of Ireland, but using the term repeatedly showed he meant it in a political sense, not geographical. After all, Donegal for example is in the north of Ireland, but it's not in the North of Ireland he was talking about.

    It reminded me of the constant use by BT of the word separation instead of independence. Same with that, nothing literally wrong with it, but your not telling me there was no political motive in it.

    It may be political but I don't see how it's a wanky phrase!! But, if I may, although his subtext is maybe that he's failing to recognise the two entities are separate states, what he says is not wrong, is it? (notwithstanding your correct point re Donegal being in the north geographically). It's not really overtly political to call the Republic "the South", is it? Or to refer to Northern ireland as "the north"? It's just an alternative way of referring to the two places. Like, say, calling Derry Londonderry.One man's "British Isles" is another man's "these Islands". I wasn't disagreeing with you that there probably was a political angle to what he was saying but, given the title of the thread is Wanky Phrases, i didn't think it warranted being there as a great example. That's all!

    Wanky Phrases

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    Couple of new ones watching BBCQT tonight.

    Sinn Fein MP consistently referring to Northern Ireland as "the North of Ireland" and the Republic of Ireland as "the South of Ireland.

    It's that pathetic notion that if I say this often enough it'll be true. Like a child stamping its feet. Well I'm sorry Declan (he really is called Declan btw before anyone starts), I'm sorry, but for the time being you're going to have to accept that "this island" is two countries.

    I say the above without the slightest interest in Northerm Irish politics.

    ..or knowledge. What's wrong with what he said?

    Tortoise

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    This has got me thinking.....

    .......is there literally no end to the complete and utter pointless $h1te we can talk about on this board?

    Incidentally, a potential anomaly.....would I be right in saying that absolutely no one would say porpiss as opposed to porpoys?

    Sure I've heard Porpiss from our southern friends. No idea how they get that pronunciation. As Huddersfield says, I don't think Northerners say that, think they're good porpoys folk, through and through.

    Just About

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    You're right, they are wrong. We've had this discussion on here before and you'd be surprised at how many folk have been corrupted by these English commentators into thinking that they are right. Folk who really should know better (mainly English folk and youngsters who have been anglicized ). "Just about" means something almost happened but not quite. It's common sense really.

    Yeah, really weird.

    Tortoise

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    I remember years ago a furore over an English text book for primary schools that had made its way up here.

    There was an exercise where you had a load of pictures of assorted objects and you were to match the rhyming pictures. One of the pairs was a DOOR and a SAW!!!

    Ha-ha, yeah that's another one. I was watching Only connect recently and they had things that were supposed homonyms and they sounded totally nothing like each other as we would pronounce them. Was similar to saw and door example.

    March For Indy, Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow Sat 24Th Oct

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    Let me put it another way... if I find it cringeworthy and damaging to the Yes cause, you can absolutely bet that No voters do too. I know it because I have friends who voted No who feel this way, who look at stuff like this with contempt, and who read the newspapers and Twitter feeds of journalists, commentators and campaigners who cannot wait to maximise the negative publicity they can generate from marches like this and rallies organised by Orange Tommy.

    If people want to show support for independence, to continue making the case, to continue campaigning, join the SNP or the Greeens, get educated and get on the doorstep.

    Fair enough, I get that. But many DO do as you suggest. I saw tweets from my home Yes group, Yes East Ayrshire, who were in attendance (or at least some of them were). This suggests that, far from uneducated Tommy hangers-on, there were very knowledgable people there who also go chapping doors as well, and who spent days and nights convincing people to vote yes during the official campaign period. But avenues to do positive work are much narrower now and I see no reason why people taking to the streets is necessarily cringe-inducing. It needn't be. I personally am a member of the SNP, respect a lot of the work of the Greens too, but find it a bit off that those who choose to support more radical groups are so easily written off. There seems to be an instant dismissal of them and denigrating them for being ignorant "Tommy-followers".

    March For Indy, Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow Sat 24Th Oct

    in Anything Goes - Other topics not covered elsewhere

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    Wasn't there myself but have to say I'm disappointed in the negative reaction to it. Some have been using the word "cringeworthy" to describe it. Now, I wasn't there and perhaps it was, but I think for those to describe it thus from afar is a bit off. Surely its aim is to keep the objective of independence to the forefront of people's minds and to show that we're not going anywhere and won't settle for the status quo. I personally don't understand why this, people marching in support of a continuing goal of independence for their country, can be called cringeworthy. At least these people care enough to keep the drive going and to try to maintain the momentum. This belittling of their efforts is worrying as it may suggest a dwindling in support. (May do).

    Two Questions

    in Football related - Discussion of non TA football

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    1. What do European (and other metric-using) countries call the 18-yard line and 6-yard line? I suppose they could just call the 18-yard box the penalty box or something, but do they use 18 yard and 6 yard in their terminology?

    2. Why do Guyana, French Guiana and Surinam not play in CONMEBOL? I guess a colonial thing, where by being, until recently, colonies of Britain, France and Netherlands they were more similar to Caribbean countries and are therefore in CONCACAF for that reason. But don't know. And if that is the case, why no moves to move confederation in recent times? (I think status of French Guiana is still a French overseas territory?? but the others are independent states??)

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