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  1. 16 hours ago, aaid said:

    If I was going to be unfair I might compare him to one of the other members of the group, but that would be ridiculous.

    Anyway, as Salmond himself said before the trial, "I'm not perfect, I've made mistakes, personal and political, but I'm not I'm innocent of any criminality".  I completely accept that, its the parts which makes him "not perfect" and the "mistakes" he's made which I have a problem with.

    But that’s surely too high a bar for anyone to live up to. I myself am not perfect and have made mistakes. Are you gonna stop talking to me?

  2. 4 minutes ago, vanderark14 said:

    This is a thread about sevcos trophy count. Please refrain from taking things off topic

    An argument between religious nut and numb nut, the TAMB is dead. I don’t want to read that shit of a morning. (Scot, despite your protestations [hun] you are religious, whether you like the term or not. You are a believer, a follower of a religious figure, the possessor of a faith-based religious outlook, the member of a church).

  3. 20 minutes ago, aaid said:

    The most serious complainant was the one which has been characterised - by Salmond - as the "sleepy cuddle".  That resulted in the Not Proven verdict on a charge of attempted rape.  This was where he was in he'd asked a senior civil servant - after they'd been drinking - to go with him to his bedroom in Bute House to finish off some paperwork late at night.  He made an advance towards her - there's a difference of opinion over how serious and how prolonged it was - he was rebuffed and backed off.   The complainer raised it unofficially - there was no route at that time to raise an formal complaint - and he apologised for his behaviour.   None of that is disputed.    The other complaint was less serious, again I believe what's disputed was the seriousness and intent and whether it amounted to criminality.

    I'm not aware of any witnesses being proven to have lied in court, when that happens perjury charges tend to follow.  What I have seen is a couple of things.  Firstly people trying to contend that because someone is found not guilty then by definition witnesses who say otherwise are by definition lying which is obvious bollocks.  That's a general theme.

    There's also a particular point that is contended which is where the other charge of attempted rape was alleged to have taken place in Bute House after a dinner.   There's conflicting evidence as to whether or not the complainer was present or not.  I've seen people claim that because a witness claimed that she wasn't there that proves that the complainer was lying.   It doesn't course prove anything of the sort, nor does the complainer claiming she was there prove the contrary.   

    It's just a case of people cherry picking the bits of evidence that suits their view and ignoring the bits which counter that.   

    FWIW, I'm personally sceptical about that witness's evidence but you couldn't go as far to say that you thought she was lying.  I'm of the opinion that it happened but that she wasn't minded to pursue it at the time for whatever reason but that she changed her mind when the two original complaints became public.
     

    Right, okay. But wait a minute, maybe I'm not following. If a complainant made a complaint but wasn't actually there, how can there be any other conclusion reached other than she was lying?

  4. 23 minutes ago, aaid said:

    I mentioned South Scotland specifically because you live in Kilmarnock - or at least that's what your profile says.

    I can easily explain where my animosity towards Salmond comes from.   

    Some of his behaviour while FM was - IMHO - totally inappropriate for someone in his position and you can limit that if you want to facts that were not disputed by either him or his defence team.   His acquittal means he was innocent of any criminal behaviour, it does not mean that he was fit to be FM.  We should be under no illusions, had the incidents that formed the two original complaints came to light at the time, then it would have been a resignation matter without any doubt.

    Had he shown any level of contrition or acceptance of the impacts and inappropriateness of his behaviour after the trial then maybe there would have been sympathy for him and an opportunity for him to rehabilitate his reputation and play some part again in the future.

    However, he didn't do that, instead he has directly - or indirectly through his proxies, WoS, Craig Murray, etc., - sought to attack those who complained against him and those who he feels should have made his problems disappear.   You've seen a raft of increasingly wilder accusations against the FM, her husband, her CoS and the complainers themselves, none of which have stood up to any level of scrutiny.

    I used to have a high regard for him, now it's akin to something I'd scrape off the sole of my shoe.

    You're right, I am in Kilmarnock. I will endeavour to look into the specific situation as it develops here before making a decision.

    You obviously have strong feelings on it and I can respect that. But remind me, what specifically were the two original complaints that, in your eyes, were definite resignation matters (I genuinely can't remember)?

    From the (generally unreported) defence of Salmond it was specifically shown (was it not?) that (some of) the complainers lied under cross-examination? Can Salmond not then make accusations against people who intended to wrongfully imprison him? He has, arguably, shown some restraint in not doing so more determinedly?

  5. 3 hours ago, aaid said:

    First of all people should vote for the parties and/or candidates that they feel can best represent their views.

    But if you say your goal is to strengthen the independence position I'm not sure why you think using the list vote for the Alba party is the way forwards.

    While there are some regions where the SNP will find it very difficult to pick up list seats if they sweep the board in the constituencies - and that is by no means a certainty - South Scotland is not one of them.

    The SNP will *not* win all the constituency seats.  I'd say that a good result for them would be to pick up East Lothian (likely) and Ayr (possiblity) but I can't see them making any headway into the three seats the Tories hold in the borders - in the two SW constituencies what happens to the Labour vote will be key to who wins - the SNP need to peel off Labour votes to win.

    The best route in South of Scotland to maximise the number of pro-Indy seats is SNP1/SNP2.

    In other regions it could well be different but again is predicated on the SNP picking up all bar a handful of constituency seats - in that I'd be very sceptical of seat prediction websites as they apply a national swing and don't take into account local factors.  I suspect the actual number of constituency seats the SNP win to be a bit fewer than the top end of current predictions.

    On current polling though, the Greens rather than Alba would seem to be the party more likely to translate those votes into seats.

    Fair enough, I didn't realise the poster was talking specifically about South Scotland. Can't be bothered checking back but don't think that was obvious?

    My response was due to the poster's 'certainty' that his position was right and we should all follow his direction. No other option. We must. I was arguing that there are other options, and things may not turn out the way he confidently suggested. There will be thousands of wasted SNP list votes across Scotland, even if they don't sweep the board with constituencies. People may also wish a more representative voice in the parliament, speaking from various independence-supporting viewpoints. I do. The polls, I think, are misleading. Yeah, Alba may very well not return any MSPs, but I'd like them to; I favour them over the Greens, for example.

    I was merely saying there existed another option, in contrast to the poster's certainty that we HAD to do it the SNP/SNP route. I was not saying my way was the only way. I personally find it distasteful the way there is so much of an entrenched position being taken, by both SNP and Alba people. I suppose that's politics. Like others here, and in real life, I suppose I was really enthusiastic about 2014 and dreamed of a better way of doing things. But politics is politics, and it's shite.

    I think, however, you are placing too much certainty in your own position of SNP/SNP. I think you are showing a real animosity towards Salmond, as are many in the SNP, and I don't know where it comes from, given his acquittal.

  6. 2 hours ago, Archiesdad said:

    My view is . A parliament representative of the people will be respected better than one that is not.

    The current Scotland has a slight indy majority and a parliament showing that would be representative of the country.

    A parliament having a massive or even just a super majority of indy representative would not be representative. 

    Look at what Strathclyde regional council was, a massive labour run sibolith with only a small majority of voters on a low turn out. 

     

    We need to show London and the World we are serious, we are not playing games. 

    We also need to show the new yessers, the new 20%(45%-55%) that Nicola has brought on board that we are a serious party, a serious movement that they can trust 

    We also need to give the nawwers no get out clause.

    Tidy I can see you are torn at the moment, but to quote someone else,' now is not the time:' to be phannying about😊

    1 +2 SNP in your region will give us Natalie and Michelle. 2 excellent candidates.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

     

     

    FFS everyone if you want a referendum vote SNP 1+2.

    It's simple.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    If you want to gamble or play games vote some other way.

     

    Disagree. You seem sure about your position, and that's fine, but assuming your goal is ensuring a strengthening of the independence position, I think your certainty and belief is misplaced. I don't know anything for certain, but I'm favouring the idea that a regional vote for Alba is the way forward.

  7. 20 hours ago, slasher said:

    A few weeks ago Police Scotland facilitated mass disorder across Glasgow. Now they are going to 'investigate' a few teenage neds for 'misuse of fireworks.' 

    What an absolute joke of an organisation! 

    Yeah, this. It’s an utter farce. Oh, NOW the police are interested in fireworks. Not when it breaks lockdown regulations, inconveniences ordinary folk and causes unnecessary health risk, but when it disrespects a royal. 

  8. 9 minutes ago, phart said:

    It seems to stem from their inability to realise what "or" means in a sentence and they ascribe "and" instead.

    Then suddenly leaping to the conclusion that all these orginisations want to lower the age of consent to 10. Seems a weird leap but I guess folk think they see jesus in burnt toast so you see what you want to see.

     

    Don’t want to derail thread but I once saw Jesus in a piece of pewter.

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  9. 1 hour ago, phart said:

    Nice one Scotty why don't you show the folks at home how you'd solve the field equations of general relativity to demonstrate a motionless earth. Or explain why the sun rises in a different place each day. Or why focualts pendulum behaves how it does at different points on the earth.

     

    I know this one! I know this one!

    It’s cos God.

  10. 37 minutes ago, hamilton wanderer said:

    I’ll have enough points for all 3 games I think if they used the conventional points method per game. To be honest however that just isn’t right is it?! Given the disastrously low number of tickets they need to give as many people as possible he chance to see a game. Maybe do Wembley the traditional way and the Hampden games could be done using home points because not everyone has the time off, cash, circumstances that allow them to travel all over to watch Scotland.

    This. An unselfish opinion.

  11. 3 minutes ago, kumnio said:

    The religious bigots would have to suck it up and try to move into the 19th century, or they would leave Ireland in droves, hence why we better go first. 

    It’s certainly a hell of a lot more nuanced than a picture I’d paint, but the loyalists, unionists or whatever grouping you’d give them, seem to thrive on hatred and bigotry. 

    A reunited Ireland doesn’t deserve them, but neither do we. 

    Just a thought (don’t tell Boris). Perhaps the Brits could let Northern Ireland go sooner rather than later. It’s gonna happen sometime. Just cut their losses. Then when the bigoted scum drift over here, they’ll all vote No to independence and then at least the establishment gets to keep its most productive cash cow and we can all suck it up, continue to bow, scrape and grovel for another 300 years. Boris gets his place in history. Okay he lost NI but he has tied up northern Britain for all eternity. God save... etc etc. 😢

  12. 5 hours ago, ProudScot said:

    Tierney and Robertson both playing 4 games in about 8 days is it? is a bit mental really. 

    Both their club managers will probably have plenty to say about that. 

    If Clarke had picked at extended squad there would have been more room for rotation. 

    Surely we want to play our best players every meaningful game?

  13. 3 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said:

    I'm the same - hopefully it's just a bang and he was shitting it because of the Euros but he genuinely looked like he was going cry at one point.

    Yeah, didn’t look the best.

    On another note, I don’t thing the commentator mentioned Jota scored that first goal, but waxed lyrical for ten minutes about the quality of Arnold’s cross.

  14. 15 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said:

    Tierney just gone off with a knee injury. Walked off the pitch but he looked genuinely gutted - got a horrible feeling that might be cruciate because saw Bojan and Campbell walk off the pitch for Stoke and both were out months. 

    Was always gonna happen. Played a good few consecutive games for us. Now our best player out of the Euros. Aw well, expected we’d lose one of our best. Pity it’s him.

  15. There seems to be popular opinions floating about on a couple of issues that I think miss the point.

    Tierney should play in midfield cos he’s our best player. This is mental. He is so effective because he’s coming from deep. Yes, he’s a brilliant left back, but he’s also really effective, quite unique even, as a marauding LCB, especially against weaker teams. He would lose much in midfield in my opinion.

    McGregor doesn’t ping goals in from 40 yards or so flashy stuff so should be dropped. This, in my opinion, is totally failing to understand his role. He recycles the ball and feeds those around them, he is also our best option for retaining possession, so important at this level. He also intercepts balls quite a lot. Anyway, regardless of my opinion, I really don’t see Clarke dropping him. Most people’s teams on here seem to exclude him but this is unrealistic. Clarke will play him. 

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