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Correct. The hapless labour party should be 20-30 percentage points ahead in the polls now. The only way useless Corbyn could get into power is if ukip re-emerge as a strong political party again and split the tory vote. Mir doesn’t necessarily have to be ukip. Farage is threatening to set up a new anti eu political party.

Looks like May is going to rewrite the good Friday agreement to get her deal through and rumour is that she’s going to drop the back stop to save her ‘precious’ tory party from splitting in two. I don’t think the nationalist community, or the Irish government will be too happy about this. Imo the Irish government will reject this proposal.

What country, England or Scotland? please don’t fall for the UK/Britain is a country part that all the unionist politicians and the bbc like to push at every opportunity.

I’m not ignoring it and I’m certainly not calling you a liar, I’d just rather hear it from a non biased scaremongering rag. I believe that a lot of the ignorance we see from leave voters stems from fear mongering whipped up by these newspapers. The times is in the etc. part 😂

I’d rather have that confirmation from any other source than the sun, daily heil, telegraph etc.

Westminster voting intention: CON: 40% (-1) LAB: 34% (-5) LDEM: 10% (+3) GRN: 4% (-) UKIP: 4% (+1) via @YouGov , 21 Dec - 04 Jan Chgs. w/ 17 Dec https://mobile.twitter.com/britainelects/status/1081678914123124741 It didn’t paste well, but at least you get the figures.

Stock up on your medicines. https://mobile.twitter.com/beloved_black_c/status/1080711261254492161

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The glaringly obvious thing I get from Brexiteers, I come across a lot of them from south of the border while working offshore on multiple platforms, is the ignorance with immigration. They think that stopping freedom of movement means immigration will stop. Dah!

Preparation for both scenarios is the point I was making.

My local party were told to start campaigning after the new year a few weeks back. They’ve not been told if it’s for either a GE or indy ref. I suppose no one knows at this stage considering if May could get her bill through or not If a GE is called, or if there’s a change of leadership, then an Indy referendum will be put on the back burner, imo, for 6 months or so to see if the SNP can get the dream ticket of Boris Johnson as PM.

Excellent. I wish more of our politicians and people would tell tv interviewers that the UK/Britain is not a country or a nation.

Is there some comments missing from this thread?

More like a can of worms. Which other country in main Europe, Russia is classed as European before you get pendantic, are being aggressive in all of their border regions?

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Let me think...RUSSIA.! They’re the only threat to mainland Europe’s peace, unless you want to include little englander Brexiteers that is.

Me too. I think that the only reasons the little englanders don’t like the idea of an eu army is that: 1. They don’t like Jonny foreigner being in charge. 2. The sponging queen won’t be the head of it. 3. They can’t start wars on their own when they want.

That also gives the electorate time to forget all the better together lies. 😒 Plus there’s no guarantee that there would be a majority in Holyrood for an independence referendum then.

I’m sure in 2014 the die hard no supporters was polled around 25%.

I’m assuming you mean that England will ensure our economy fails. Considering Scotland would be back in the eu and England has a single market agreement with the eu, I find that scenario very unlikely.

Totally agree with you on this 👍🏻

What a lot of people don’t realise is that most, if not all, countries in the world are not truly independent, going by some Brexiteers thinking, when it is such a global society now. For instance the USA government can easily dictate your interest rates, exchange rates etc by simply imposing sanctions, Turkey, Iran, Russia for example. Or their banks can take a massive hit and that effect is felt around the world. Unfortunately the USA can crush our economy on a whim if it really wanted too. The old bt line of you’re not really independent if the boe sets your interest rates is somewhat true, but so is the scenario above true. The uk for decades periodically signed up to a lot of perceived bad things in the eu, the Lisbon treaty, CFP, a mute point imo, etc. Successive westminster governments are to blame for that.

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Unfortunately no, but look at it from the eu’s point of view. Its their market and you have to play by their rules. Norway? They just can’t let a member go politically, but let them cherry pick back into the lucrative single market. If that was the case then most other member states would do the same and then you wouldn’t have an eu, just a trading block. Btw, when have Westminster ever been democratic. Think of the old empire and the act of union here

Jobs, economy, businesses rely heavily on the single market.